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  • Jarix@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Consensual non consent.

    Also known, or formerly known as rape play.

    • Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 days ago

      And let me guess, it’s not called that anymore because 1. it’s not really rape 2. it got mixed up too often and then people got soft on it?

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              2 days ago

              Yeah, but I don’t know if the interest is then as common to be interested in it’s history to such an extend that you know stuff like that.

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                2 days ago

                Sorry I’m not understanding what you mean… (I’m pretty sick right now so it could just be me being dumb)

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                  2 days ago

                  Yeah, it’s been going around here as well.

                  I meant that while I’m sure a lot of people have the kink, not many may be interested in it’s history, such that they are capable of talking about the reasons why it is not called rapeplay anymore.

      • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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        6 days ago

        It’s more blunt, but people who have been raped would point out that there’s a big difference between the sexual nature of consensual non consent, and the objectively violent nature of rape.

        It’s less that it’s less honest than that it’s more clear about what it is, and what it isn’t. It’s about what people think rape is about, and not what it actually is: angry, hateful and violent.

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          2 days ago

          But consensual non consent as well as rape can be soft

          Eg free use -> CNC

          Or use of power, like financial dependency -> rape

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            2 days ago

            That’s fair, and a good example on the first one.

            I don’t really care to quibble on the details too much, but I believe a lot of definitions would distinguish the coercive from the forcible.

            In either case, it speaks to the cnc phrase being more apt than otherwise.

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          6 days ago

          Well I needed someone to explain consentual non consent to me because its not really logical, and I didnt need rape play explained to me, so there’s that. Seems sort of silly we needed a politically correct term for it in the first place.

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            5 days ago

            Seems to me, it is more an accurate term. „Politically correct“ is still signage of „I am a right-wing asshole“ btw. Even when those assholes switch terms regulary.

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            5 days ago

            You do know that no one made them switch terms right? The people doing it and using the term decided to change it because it made it more clear when they were talking to each other.
            Since you hadn’t encountered the idea before, I don’t think they’re super concerned about their sex lives being easy to explain to you. Your opinion isn’t super relevant to other people’s sexual preferences or the words they use to talk about it to each other.

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              5 days ago

              Well, its as relevant as anyone else’s opinion here, which is like you said not much. Good talk though.

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                4 days ago

                Well, less than the people who said “oh, okay” when they learned what the term meant. Getting hung up on how you feel about the words they use for their sex lives is really weird.

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        6 days ago

        It got ruined by anti-edgelord zoomers who put shit like “seggs” in their TikTok captions to prevent demonetization.