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        Apparently, muricans are a lost tribe of Sumerians.

        Hold on a sec. I need to write up some golden tablets or something.

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          Well you see, in 1793, 'Merica requested the metric artifacts from France so we could be metric too. France sent over a kilogram, but the shipment was lost at sea. And that was a little sad.

          All joking aside, US feet, inches, pounds, and so on have been secretly really metric since 1893.

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            eh.

            Fun fact. if you use your knucklebones to count instead of fingers, and you use multiplication instead of addition you can get to 144 counting on your fingers. (i.e. one digit on the second hand is equal to a full hand- 12- on the first.)

            yeah. some bullshit about that being why we have 12 hours, and 12 inches in a foot, is totally going into those golden tablets.

            (IIRC, we have 12 hours because there was 10 hours of daylight in Egypt, and an hour on either end for twilight. that evolved into the 24 hour system we have today.)

            I think I’ll call my new religion Bullcrap Bulk’rap bulq’rap.

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            Sumerians also tried to metrify, but the copper weights they bought mysteriously corroded

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        Paleolithic mfers will see you writing a stone tablet and think “this fool doesn’t know how to sharpen a rock” 😂😂😂

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        4 months ago

        Well if we want to get pedantic, every unique thing passed around and spread is a meme. Jokes, art styles, idioms, words, greetings, most social behavior really. And you can go a step further and say diseases, species, even all of life is a meme.

        And if there ever was a place to use this definition of meme it would be… LinguisticMemes, but this is a good second place.

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    If I remember correctly, Homo sapiens sapiens was not only coetaneous with Mammoths, but we are widely considered to be one, if not the main cause of their extintion.

    Also constructions like Gobekli tepe, with it’s carvings and decorations, predate the extintion of Mammoths by something like 6000 years.

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      4 months ago

      Hell, there were still mammoths around when the pyramids at Giza were built.

      Pygmy mammoths, on an island in northern Siberia, but still.

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      I… am so disappointed this didn’t go where, for a split second, my brain thought it was going.

      Homo sapiens sapiens was not only coetaneous with Mammoths, but we are widely considered to be one

      Chickens are dinosaurs - and humans are mammoths!!

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        birds are the continuation of the theropod dinosaur lineage.

        humans are the continuation of the early synapsid lineage also present at the time (which later gave rise to the early mammal progenitor).

        when people say birds are dinosaurs they mean the lineage didn’t branch as much as it did for humans, which I think is more survivorship bias than anything.

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          People say birds are dinosaurs because every living thing is in every clade of it’s ancestors which means they are dinosaurs. They’re also a lot of other things from all of the other clades so they’re not saying that birds are just dinosaurs, but that they are part of Dinosauria and every other clade of their ancestors and so too will all of their descendants be.

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            Yes, one could say birds have skeletons in the same manner. I guess I’m just trying to understand what the opposing position before was the great revelation birds are dinosaurs was uttered. I’m perpetually confused by this expression.

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    Weren’t there like full blown civilizations at that point? Kinda weird to refer to mammoths as if it were some stone age prehistoric period and be surprised that someone could craft something like this then lol

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    Just using some tiny mammoth population on an isolated island in Siberia to state “MAMMOTHS WERE STILL ROAMING THE EARTH WHEN BLAH BLAH BLAH” is somewhat disingenuous.

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        Roaming the earth means roaming all - or at least a very significant portion of - the earth, not some very isolated region. So I would say yes - if some tiny population of mammoths was still alive in some limited area at this time, they were not ‘roaming the earth’.

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      Also pretending that 4000 years ago humans were still hunter gatherers or something (it’s kind of implied in the wording imo). 4000 years ago there were plenty of fairly developed civilisations around.

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    That’s nothing; Tigers and Pandas are still around in the same time period as the electronic device you used to post this!

    When people are using mental interface devices to gravitate to their Mars colony it’ll be such a mindbender to realize ye olde memes were being made at the same time all those mammalian fossils from extinct species like elephants and rhinos were carbon dated to!

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    The eyes don’t make sense to me. How did they know to use this pattern? Are there some really big grasshoppers out there?

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      No doubt there are insects big enough to be able to see the patterns on the eyes without magnification.

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        An alternative that I like to use in the lab is squinting and holding the sample really close to my face. Perhaps they used my method if the bugs weren’t big enough?

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          I mean, yes (Im losing that ability as I age :(), but also it’s not that far fetched to just conclude all insects are built about the same.

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            For sure, I just like posting stupid things on memes.

            I think your lab needs to get you a giant magnifying glass with a light so your squinting days can continue. They’re super nice for things that can’t go under a microscope. So far I’ve been lucky myself, but many of my colleagues my age experience the same problem. Some day I would like to get a macro camera so I can just show them pictures.

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              Some day I would like to get a multi-camera bionic eye implants or like a Star Trek visor ribbed for my pleasure.

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        1. Exactly this. Just eyesight & time.
        2. Not to mention that some insects even have a bit of contrast between the lenses so it’s easier to understand they are compounded.
        3. And additionally due to individual lenses compounded eyes arent smooth - by reflecting light at different angles you can make the “bumps” obvious.
        4. Also if there is like a water droplet on grasshoppers eyes you can clearly see it’s surface structure. Just like you can see individual pixels on your (high dpi phone?) screen the same way.

        Tho I bet they didn’t study this ones eyes:

        It’s called a fairy wasp (wiki/Megaphragma_mymaripenne) and it’s only the third smallest insect known.

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      I’m sure they had plenty of experience with bugs in their environment, both alive and dead. I’m sure you can see the eyes pretty well close up.