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    “we’re not doing illegal, and no you can’t check.”

    -People doing illegal things

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      you’re OK with having all your messages read by the government?

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          I take issue only with “- People doing illegal things” because that argument has been used over and over to rape our privacy to death. Think “If you’ve done nothing wrong you’ve got nothing to hide” mindset.

          I don’t have a problem with “- Monopoly doing illegal things”. Monopoly is not a person.

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        We already know they do that. If they can’t directly for any legal reason that they don’t want to admit violating, they’ll just have one of our allies do it for them via their foreign intelligence sevices. Snowden gave us the proof of that a decade ago.

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        Neither private companies nor the government should be collecting data from/about citizens without probable cause and due process.

        That could all be codified into the regulations that classify internet as a public infrastructure service.

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        You do realize they have a law that requires the phone companies to run a phone line no matter where you build in the USA right? Requiring the ISPs to uphold stipulations like this is a good thing.

        Also, NSA…

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        Cocaine prices have made little to no change even though recessions, my friend tells me.

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          Recently saw a report on cocaine, apparently the prices haven’t changed since the 1990s… just the purity has gone down and it now comes laced with fentanyl.

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    Internet providers say the FCC should not investigate broadband prices

    And that’s exactly why broadband prices should be investigated.

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        Because the ISPs don’t want to have to do what we made them do for phone lines. Even though the trillion dollars we have given them over the last 30 years should have come with that stipulation…but they took that money and bought our politicians with it.

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        I $$$$ honestly $$$$ have $$$$ not $$$$ a $$$$ single $$$$ idea $$$$ why $$$$ either.

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    In my native country gigabit fiber internet is less than $9/mo. Broadband prices in the US are absolutely ridiculous.

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        you can get the same internet speed for like 10$ in Ukraine. of 4$ for symmetrical 100mbps fiber connection

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      Not to defend those shitbags, but population density plays a large part in infrastructure cost. source

      Granted, they’ve alco received enormous subsidies without intending to fulfill their obligations, but still, it’s a significant factor. This country is quite large. I can drive 4h in nearly any direction and still be in state lines. Most of that is farm land.

      This is one of the reasons why this should be nationalized because rural areas are still either unserved or underserved by broadband because the cost/benefit analysis doesn’t favor the provider enough.

      That said, prices are higher than they should be even taking density into account (strictly my opinion). Gigabit fiber should actually be about $15/mo for all regions, (my SWAG*) but the infrastructure just is not there yet. The biggest challenge being the “last mile”.

      *Sophisticated wild-ass guess

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        Don’t let them tell you it’s the lack of density that is the problem. I live in a major US city with high density, and there is only one provider that offers actual broadband at my address (~$100/mo for 500Mb/s service). The “competition” wants me to pay $50/mo for 20 Megabit DSL.

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          No, it truly is part of the problem and there is no excuse for you to be billed that much. Two things can be true!

          I have the option of 200 megabits for $19. It all depends on what infrastructure is already there and how much it costs for them to get the hookup to you whatever it is. I think the real problem is that we’re living under their rules which are based on how much money they can make rather than providing equal access for everyone.

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    My three year old often says “Dad don’t look!” When he does that, I know for a fact he’s doing something he shouldn’t be doing.

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    Good thing broadband providers have such a stellar track record of nothing but honorable and consumer-benefiting behavior. I see no reason that we can’t just trust that they have our best interests at heart.

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    If any business tells the government that it should not look to closely into it’s practices, then you know that there is something that needs to be brought to the light and corrected.

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    I agree, the FCC shouldn’t waste time investigating broadband prices. Just nationalize them. And the rest of infrastructure.

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    “We promise not to eat any more faces,” said a spokeswolf for the Wolves Eating Faces Corporation.