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    Oh hell yeah, another phone 2% better than the last one with the same storage capacity as the last one for more money, probably no micro SD support still, lousy stock os, and waive your warranty for the right to install alternate os.

    Probably. I didn’t verify any of that but it’s likely since nothing ever changes for the better anymore.

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      Their OS is actually not bad, it’s pretty much stock and the stuff that they add is desirable, like Moto Gestures

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      Looks like it’s a lot cheaper than the previous one but it’s a regional release right now (India only)

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        Being wrong comes with the territory of being a bitter old man longing for the old days of rapid and huge improvements I guess…

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          Happens with every new tech rly. I think there’s only so much you can add to a phone before people don’t care anymore. I’m typing this on a 2018 model iPhone, even

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      Not even better, it’s actually a downgrade from its predecessor in terms of refresh rate and SoC, going from 165 Hz to 144 Hz, and from a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 to a Snapdragon 7 Gen 3 (which also means it drops AV1 hardware decoding, which its predecessor had).

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        Tbf it is cheaper than the Edge 40 Pro, they messed up their naming. This phone is the successor to the Edge 40 not the Pro. Mind you there are still some downgrades as they downgraded the storage to UFS 2.2.

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          This phone is the successor to the Edge 40 not the Pro

          Not really, it’s closer to the Edge 40 Pro than to the Edge 40 in price. And the Edge 50 Ultra looks like it’s gonna be way more expensive than the 40 Pro, whle also having a lower refresh-rate screen.

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            It was comparable in price to the Edge 40 in India which was the only market it was launched in at the time of the comment. The European price is over the top but it should probably get price cuts soon.

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      The slower UFS 2.2 or different chargers in the box, would’ve been forgivable if it did not come with 256GB of non-expandable storage. That alone makes it a deal breaker. Either provide higher internal storage capacity or expandable storage slot.

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        Games, apps, music, media and all that need storage. I can make do with 256gb if it’s expandable. Otherwise, I need high internal storage space to make it work.

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          It’s also just cheaper to use an SD card for some of that stuff rather than paying for more internal storage on the device itself.

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            Why would I use my phone to watch videos and listen to music that I’m not streaming from the internet? That’s not a real question.

            Audio and video files are rarely capable of causing the execution of malicious code. Don’t worry, its safe. If it wasn’t safe, the riaa and the film industry would have hacked the planet by now.

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              But why would you want to watch videos on your phone?

              Music is small. 256GB is plenty to store well over 1000 hours of music. No need for dealing with annoying SD card setups.

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                I mean, I rarely actually watch videos on my phone, but I have done it several times when I’m on flights.

                Mostly, I just like the flexibility that I get from having an SD card slot. Why do you think its annoying?

                I also want a headphone jack and a removable battery. I’d be willing to have a slightly larger, slightly less water resistant phone if it had these features.

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                  Last time I used an SD card in a phone (actually used it: not just having one in there) was with a phone that have like 16-32GBs. Given you couldn’t install apps on it, that mean doing annoying file management to just try to get enough space to install something. Granted, if your use case is just bulk storage and the base phone has plenty of space for apps, I imagine its perfectly fine.

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    Unfortunately it comes with the curved screen from the Edge line, garbage.

    Sent from my Motorola edge plus.

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    You mean “Lenovo releases new 5G mid-range smartphone with 125 W charging and 144 Hz OLED display under the Motorola brand”?

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              That was on their laptops from Lenovo. There’s no evidence you have the same on Motorola.

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                That’s kind of like saying a CEO that has ruined every company they’ve worked at won’t do the same at the next. Kind of like saying if google bought tails Linux, it would be a privacy based OS.

                Lenovo has a history, they certainly may not tell the world they’ve done some shady things, that remains to be found. But their history is not looking good.

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                  Lenovo may have a history. But, Motorola doesn’t. Besides, there has been no evidence about motorola doing shady stuff and they have been under Lenovo for so long. According to a recent review they wanted to become the no.3 smartphone seller. It’s unlikely they would do this to ruin their reputation.

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        Because Lenovo is a chinese company and people think motorola is an american one. Either way, you are better off buying xiaomi/poco but americans are ignorant of these brands(because they are not being sold in the US).

        So every time some chinese company like motorola or nothing, markets a phone to America, americans have their minds blown that there are cheaper but good phones available. But in Europe, these phones are available and very popular. Xiaomi is probably more popular than samsung and apple, especially in poorer countries. Even in “western” Europe, xiaomi has 15% market share, samsung 35% and apple 33%.

        If you are willing to ignore the fact that xiaomi is a chinese company, they are offering amazing value for money products. Which is why they keep offering more and more products, including cars. And while i cannot speak for their other products, xiaomi/poco phones are great. Especially poco, if you dont care about cameras but care about performance/soc. Poco is a subbrand of xiaomi.

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          you are better off buying xiaomi/poco

          If they have the cell bands you want in the US - which they don’t necessarily.

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            I think all Xiaomis(sold in Europe) have Google Store. Huawei is the one without Google Store.

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      Some of their laptops are still great but TBH it really took a dive some years later after post-IBM

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      Motorola generally supports unlocking bootloaders, unless you buy a specifically locked one from vendors (like AT&T, Verizon, Amazon Prime + Ads versions). Given it hasn’t even launched yet, its probably not support yet though?

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    Sounds great…but no SD card slot.

    Motorola was one of the last still putting them in every phone up till a few years ago. That plus the unlockable bootloaders kept me coming back. No SD card slot, no sale.

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    Yeah, 6.7 inches is just a little bit too big, primarily just because it’s too wide. I have found phones wider than ~75mm (2.9inches) are just too wide to be comfortable.

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      This phone is 72.4 mm wide according to GSMarena. Height might still be an issue for you since it’s 161.2 mm

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        I’m not particularly concerned about the height because I hold the foam with my left hand. My thumb rests on the top left and my pointer finger rests on the top right about an inch or so down from the top of the screen.I only interact with the device with my other hand, which is not holding the phone. So height does not matter very much, but width really does, at least for me.

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        I want my monster nexus 6 back. I had that phone for almost 6 years because of the beefy ass screen.

        Give me a palm sized ultrawide!

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          At some point, you’ll increase the width so much, you’ll just end up with a tablet in landscape.

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          At some point, you’ll increase the width so much, you’ll just end up with a tablet in landscape.

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            Lol I’ve got pretty large hands, (thumb and middle finger touch when holding a 12oz can of coke), so I’m completely ok with this, as long as it fits in my pockets

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        Yeah, I would say my hands are decently small. I generally find that I shy away from phones that are 6.4 inches or larger and try to stay between 6 and 6.3.

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            I don’t have a 6 inch display. I have the OnePlus Nord N200 5G which has a 6.49in display and is 74.9mm (2.95in) wide.

            Edit: my last phone was 77mm wide and was quite a chore to handle. I will try for narrower next time as well. This isnt bad, but it could still be a bit better.

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      Hm, phablet, haven’t heard that word in a while. Smartphones killed tablets and that word in the process

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        Manufacturers killed that word so no one can make fun of it. 🤣🤦‍♂️

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        I remember when my 4.8 inch phone was considered a phablet. But it was no bigger than my 6.7 inch phone is now, just bigger bezels.

        Just need a 7 inch phone now so it’s bigger than my first tablet.

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          To be fair to modern phones, they have a taller aspect ratio, a 7" 20:9 phone has a smaller surface area than a 7" 16:9 tablet

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      Curious, what phone are you using? I only see phones 6.4inch and larger. There are hardly any small phones left in the market.

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        Right now, an Asus Zenfone 8. Been using it for a year and a half. Before that, a Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact which I used for almost 5 years. 😅

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          Interesting. I guess a few more years. After that sony. Because Zenfone may or may not launch a compact phone again.

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            Hopefully they’ll continue selling “compact” phones. Heck, I’m guessing there will be people who will be happy if Asus releases a compact phone every alternate year.

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              I said that because Zenfone launched the 11 ultra. It may or may not launch the regular 11.

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                Yes, they may or may not launch the normal version. Then again, it’s only April. One can still hope. 👍

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        ZenFone 10 is the last “small” phone I can remember. Sad to see them drop the smaller size with the 11.

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    Is that a curved screen I see? Disappointed. Expensive to fix and they do nothing for me.

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      I’m a huge fan of those tbh.
      not very practical but they just feel so fucking nice

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        Maybe I’ve been using one too long to notice (Pixel 6 Pro) but I remember I did not want it, I wish it was flat. Since it’s all glass the phone is like butter in my hand. I also have a case on it to protect my “bend over” investment on this phone. So the curve does nothing for me regardless. I did have an unfortunate drop incident with it, and the bloody screen was 400 CAD to replace.

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    I used to recommend Motorola to people who wanted to buy a phone from an American company, but they’re owned by Lenovo now.

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      So what? I own a Motorola edge 2021 and it works perfect, not to mention how many times fall down, and not a single break. The flash light feature is the best so far, shake your phone up and down, you have a light!

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        My edge slowed to the point of unusability. I switched to a moto g. The thing had an absolutely shit antenna, in certain areas it would just lose signal and never get it back even in areas I should have great signal. It would sometimes fail to make calls telling me to use wifi calling even though it was on. It wouldn’t get any signal on my 2.4ghz home network. People frequently couldn’t hear me on phone calls. I had to go outside at work to load videos or make calls. The screen simply wouldn’t get bright enough to use on a sunny day.

        I’ve historically bought middle of the line moto phones because they are generally good enough to do what I need while not costing a grand, but the last two have been disappointing as fuck. I sprung for a new major model from another manufacturer and the difference is night and day. I can actually load videos in an interior room of a concrete building, which is nuts to me.

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        They’re probably decent phones but I think the other commenter was more concerned with security.

        Lenovo in particular has a history of having software baked into the BIOS that would install without consent on fresh install.

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        Also own a Motorola Edge 40 Neo. Ofcourse it’s not the best Phone on the Market but it is quite fast and has plenty of battery capacity. I think if you buy it on a Sale it get’s you an awesome bang for your buck.

        Sent from my Motorola

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    Can anyone speak of the software quality and support of Motorola? Also the support of custom ROM after the official support/updates ended.

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      Software quality is great. Very near stock with a few great tweaks. Moto gestures are amazing, I use the chop-flashlight constantly and I know lots of people do too.

      The updates suck honestly though. Security updates 1-2 months behind and you’ll get 2 version upgrades… eventually. Edit: their higher end phones get two, reportedly their budget line gets 1 usually…

      Still though I like their phones. But as a techy guy I also know I won’t stick with a phone more than 2 years anyhow.

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      I had a motorola z3 play a few years ago.

      Software quality was pretty good. Security updates were sometimes 3-4 months behind and would combine a few monts when they did get released. When I contacted them about it I was told that not all security patches google issues apply to them. I don’t have a way of verifying that.

      With “normal” updates to different Android versions they where also slow, but I guess that’s normal with most Android vendors.

      The biggest bummer with that phone was that they killed the module-feature halfway trough it’s livecycle in some regions. (You could snap modules to the back that would add additional stuff like a 360° Camera or a bigger Speaker)

      There is an official lineageos build for the z3 play which still gets updated I believe. Even very recent motorola phones get lineageos pretty soon after release. (Not shure tho if that includes all or just the flagships)

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      Some of their phones are guaranteed to get 1 OS update. 1.

      Sony seems to be a king in the mid range recently. More expensive than Motos and Xiaomis - sure.

      Sony Xperia 10 V

      • 5Ah battery.
        " Sd card slot.
      • headphone jack.
      • SD 695 and not some Exynos or Mediateks in Motos
      • decent camera.(sideloading a gcam may improve results)
      • No Glass back(almost all Motos have this BS).
      • No curved edges.
      • 1 month back with security updates.
      • Some phones, even mid range, get 3 OS updates.

      Almost Pixel at home

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        All Sony phones (including their flagships) get two years of OS updates and three years of security patches. That’s rumoured to change this year but the Xperia 1 III and 5 III are not getting Android 14.

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          Sony lists software updates history. Some devices get proper updates like Pixels or Samsungs.

          Which to me was really surprising. Japan can be really weird about software.

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      I can’t directly, but most of my coworkers are on Motorola phones, and they all seem to at least like them.

      Edit: like them as in not get frustrated with their phone being stupid, and enough to buy a new Motorola phone when they need to chage their phone. No idea about custom ROMs or software support…in fact I probably should have just kept this whole thing in my head…

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      My experience is dated, but figured I’d share it in case no one else has any input.

      I owned a few Motorola Android phones before and after the Google involvement. I think my most recent purchase was 2015.

      At that time, they were extremely “pure android” with very few additions beyond the stock experience. The things they added were way ahead of their time - I still think those devices had the best “always on” display implementation to this day, and they did it way before it became a norm.

      Their software and update support was rivaling Google at the time, and most other manufacturers were still in the days of 2 years of updates if you’re lucky.

      They just stopped making phones it seemed like. I ended up moving towards Pixels over the years, but Moto is the one company that would tempt me to switch back. That or maybe HTC but they’re dead.

      Hope you get a more recent answer - I didn’t even realize they were still making phones to be honest.

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      Can’t speak for quality. But, don’t expect quantity. There are moto devices who are yet to receive the android 14 Update.

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      My only Motorola phone is a razr 40 which I’ve had for 4 months now, so not a ton of experience but I’ll share it anyway. The quality of the sofrware has been pretty good. It’s close to what reviewers used to call “stock” Android, in that it hasn’t received any significant UI modifications and doesn’t come with many proprietary apps. There are very few bugs or performance issues. You also don’t need a Motorola account to access any important software features.

      However the software support is absolutely awful considering the RRP of the phone, its age and the promises made by Motorola. It was supposed to receive at least bi-monthly security updates but by January had already fallen behind that. The most recent update had been the November security patch, so I expected an update in January. Instead I received a February security update towards the end of March - nearly a 5 month update gap on a mid-range phone still less than a year old. Personally I think that is an absolute joke and I’m now considering selling it and either going back to an older phone with LineageOS or buying a Samsung flip since I know that will actually receive updates.

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      Very stock Android, but they use older hardware for these phones and it shows. I had a moto g power, at one point it had to install updates and when it rebooted it sat at a blank home screen for ten minutes before showing any icons. I ditched Android altogether and went iPhone, but I heard really good things about pixel phones, so I switched back and gave my old phones to my kids.

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    Documented hardware and mainline kernel or is it like every unownable other phone with an orphan kernel to steal ownership from the consumer? Orphaned kernels mean rental phone you can never own. This is the depreciation mechanism in Android. This is the only question that really matters in the big picture grand scheme.

    If it has a mainline kernel, and hardware documentation, it will last decades even as a spare backup you never actually use. It will run any Linux, or find a second life in dozens of ways. It will even have long term value.

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    …but can we trust Motorola anymore? They haven’t put out a good smartphone since the original Razr line & the first Androids. Haven’t been relevant in the phone world since.

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      They have been launching good smartphones for a while. The edge 40 Neo, edge 40, G84, G54. And now the edge 50 pro. The design, colors, IP rating, clean and AOSP like android experience without ads or bloat. You don’t get that on others.

      Usually, you need to compromise with ads and bloat or some other stuff. Unfortunately, it missed the mark a bit. Pricing aside, it lacks expandable storage. Reducing a differentiation factor for motorola.