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  • I agree positive reinforcement is certainly good, we use that for scratching couch and such, but there’s no real substitute action for getting onto the kitchen counter and eating plastic, nor is there one for biting someone. There does have to be a level of mild punishment for certain actions, especially ones that can harm themselves or others.


  • Canned air is good for the noise, but yeah they do tend to realise after a bit if there are no actual consequences.

    I had a period initially when training them where I had to more or less chase them around the house to get a squirt in. It sucks, but they need the consistent punishment to reinforce the idea that certain behaviours are associated with punishment.

    I feel you on not wanting to use punishment, unfortunately they aren’t receptive to harsh language by default, they are really only built to respond to physical stimulus. Not using unneeded force is good obviously, the most I do are light taps on the nose if they bite someone too hard, that’s really rare nowadays thankfully. Everything else is the squirt bottle if they don’t respond to verbal signals.

    Though I’m not an expert, just speaking from 1.5 demons worth of cats. Grain of salt etc. Eldest used to bite my stomach during important meetings during lockdown, sharing the apartment with her during that time was a real lesson in training cats.










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    It’s not a stupid question at all, it’s actually quite a complex one.

    I suppose the real meat of the question is it morally wrong to derive pleasure from something where suffering is involved. You didn’t personally make the decision to harm people, so you have no responsibility there. You also did not consent to existing as a person, which means you largely have no say about where you find yourself as a human being, the circumstances of which led you to that park.

    But conversely you’re now burdened with the knowledge, which understandably changes your outlook. By way of utilising the park, you’re implicitly condoning it’s creation, therefore the suffering. Before you were blameless, now it’s a little muddier. You still wouldn’t have condoned the actions taken though, which does count for something.

    If we’re taking “allowed” as a social context, some may find it distasteful. It largely depends on who you talk to. I don’t think it should affect your own reasoning much though.

    Ultimately what we’re left with is a physical space that has a somewhat difficult history. As it stands, no action you do can alter that fact, it will always be that thing, unfortunate as it may be.

    Considering all that, on the range of all possible human activity, I think the enjoyment of a park is fairly reasonable behaviour. I don’t think you can unlearn the context though, so whether or not you can enjoy it largely depends on your own internal moral workings. In the end, I would recommend going with what your heart, gut, and mind tell you.



  • Absolutely, that’s why we need to prevent things that would enable abuse.

    There’s always going to be people pushing for more power, and we need to be alert because that power will endanger people. We’ve seen that in America, we’ve seen that time and time again throughout history. Unchecked power causes abuse and dead people.

    It’s going to be a balancing act, naturally the role of government will require some level of power over it’s people, but ideally the people also get a say in that.

    The biggest roadblock to our own safety in that regard is complacency. Why else are we being turned into passive consumers? Those with money know it’s easier to manage a docile consumer population than it is to manage something like France. Strong consumer rights, and the general willingness of the population to actually get mad and start wrecking shit have left them in a largely advantageous position.

    So yes, I believe you should push back even on the small abuses of power and privacy, both because it’s important, and because it gets you used to pushing back when actually abuses of power start occurring.