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Cripple. History Major. Irritable and in constant pain. Vaguely Left-Wing.
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PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solutionEnglish1·3 hours agoDo you think Germany would have voluntarily stopped WW2 and voluntarily made reperations all on their own?
No. That’s literally Revisionist history.
Don’t be ignorant on purpose
what the ever-loving fuck does that have to do with the foundation of Israel and Zionists acquiring land in Palestine
PugJesus@lemmy.worldtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•Shamelessly ~~stolen~~ seized from somewhereEnglish222·4 hours agoI literally laughed out loud, 10/10
Damn, even I’m not that nice to me
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•I'm not SAYING that a radical populist calling for the mass redistribution of wealth needs to cross the Potomac, BUT...English1·5 hours agoWe must bring the fantasy to life
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solutionEnglish1·6 hours agoWhen I can post literal quoted history and you aren’t capable of internalizing that it makes me feel you aren’t interested in a serious conversation about this.
What was the group that forced Germany to pay reperations?
In the quoted and cited incident, as I pointed out, there were no ‘allies’ who made Germany pay anything.
In the postwar situation, no one made Germany pay reparations to anyone involved in this situation we are discussing except the survivors of the Holocaust, and those reparations had nothing to do with the land of Israel, which was under the British Mandate of Palestine.
FFS you are crashing out my dude.
Jesus fucking Christ.
I’m sorry for having an understanding of the recent history of the region instead of some bizarre fucking fever dream.
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solutionEnglish1·13 hours ago… okay? How does that contradict anything I said, considering that I explicitly mentioned the destruction of the Israeli state as perfectly fine by me?
Or are you going to ignore that and make another inane statement in direct contradiction to the very comment you’re quoting?
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solutionEnglish21·13 hours agoWhy not destroy the state and create one where everyone has equal rights?
That’s literally what a one-state solution is, as supported in the very fucking title. Jesus Christ.
A state anchored in the supremacy of one group is an apartheid state. It’s clear as day which side you’re on supporting such a state.
Me: “Like I said, I’m down with everything up to the very destruction of the Israeli state.”
You: “It’s clear that you support the state of Israel!”
The worst part is, I don’t know if this is trolling. I legitimately believe that you could be at this reading level.
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solutionEnglish1·13 hours agoYou have fun with your Nazi shite. We’re done here.
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solutionEnglish11·13 hours agoAh I see we have several new (well, new to this convo anyway, right) hasbara techniques employed here. We have the classic crybullying, desperately pretending to be the victim, an attempt at distracting from an indefensible point you just made and cant think of a way to defend, and leveraging of the holocaust as a tool to push zionist colonialism and murder.
What
… this has no connection to this conversation. Or reality, for that matter.
You have fun talking to yourself, buddy.
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solutionEnglish2·13 hours agoRemember kids, if your ancestors came from the wrong place, it’s okay if people want to deport you to it. You don’t have the sacred blood that connects you to the land, unlike True
AryansLocals! Ethnic cleansing is okay if it’s against Bad Ethnicity™!That you use the exact same arguments as Zionist genocidaires and fail to see the irony is sadly unsurprising.
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solutionEnglish2·13 hours agoThe idea of an innate ‘connection to the land’ wherein those whose ancestors are from the ‘wrong’ place don’t have that sacred blood-and-soil connection is literally exactly what I’m talking about and what you’re openly fucking defending here as an attack, specifically, against Jewish Israelis, and even more specifically, against Jewish Israelis of European descent.
“I’m only putting forward insane blood-and-soil nationalist arguments because they’re Jews of the wrong race! It’s not antisemitic or racist!”
You have fun with your Nazi shite. We’re done here.
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solutionEnglish1·13 hours agoJust because I’m calling out the stupid claim that this is antisemitism it doesn’t mean I’m supporting nationalism. It’s just a stupid stance to scream antisemitism at everything especially when this is a purely nationalist issue, which again, I don’t agree with. Those screaming that all Israelis should leave are doing so not because they’re jews but because they’re settlers lol
The jewish Israelis of European descent aren’t connected to the land.
This you?
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solutionEnglish21·14 hours agoNo, what does that have to do with this?
Is calling for genocide okay up until the moment it happens?
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solutionEnglish14·14 hours ago“Destroying Israel is okay, but ethnic cleansing is bad”
“WOW you think just because we don’t LOVE Israel we’re antisemitic”
Yes, you broke the code. /s
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•I'm not SAYING that a radical populist calling for the mass redistribution of wealth needs to cross the Potomac, BUT...English10·14 hours agoCaesar was assassinated before he could complete his radical reforms, and his young heir turned out to be an opportunist, and the worst of all things - a m*derate 🤢
But considering that, like the Late Republic, we are already looking at a dictatorship, just a conservative one instead of a reformist one…
Well, I’m not sure that the time is to abandon all hope just yet, realistically speaking. But you would be hard-pressed to get any objection from me for ‘replacing’ the current ultraconservative fascist nitwit other than an exhausted look if things keep going the way they are.
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPto memes@lemmy.world•How dare they wrong our queen, Bugs Bunny, like that!English4·14 hours agoSome lunacy about the LGBT menace throwing sex in their face or something like that, it was pretty incoherent in addition to being atrocious.
PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solutionEnglish1·14 hours agoOkay, so by “Zionists” are you referring exclusively to members of the Israeli government or might there perhaps be a broader ideology at play here?
There’s a broader ideology at play here that is very deeply engrained in Israeli society.
The meme reeks of a Bernie Sanders-esqe “Netanyahu is the problem” kind of narrative.
Sanders is a politician, not a polisci professor. Politicians say what they think will get them closer to the solutions they think they can achieve, not necessarily what is objectively correct. “We need to get rid of the worst of the genociders who has sparked the current wave of genocide, and condemning 70% of Israeli society, however correctly, will not give us the allies we need to reduce the current stage of the genocide and move to the next step of a just and lasting peace” kind of thinking - Sanders has long been a radical, by US standards, voice in support of the Palestinian cause. Thinking that him focusing on the most immediate enemy is condemnation worthy is blinkered at best.
I don’t care where they go, just leave the fucking indigenous people alone.
… do you care if Israelis in Israeli-majority areas recognized by international law as part of the state of Israel remain in Israel, where many of them were born and raised?
You can’t romance the Sister of Battle, 0/10, literally unplayable
Don’t worry, coal is coming back under the new administration