I remember when this used to get printed on fruit of the looms

If we’re going to have to nationalize these companies anyways id far prefer socialism over fascism to be the mechanism.

Time for some kinetic wealth redistribution.

[thing I want to say here but which I don’t want to be on the internet permanently] style impeachment.

Whats the opposite of liminal space…

Stop talking and load the car.

I eat pieces of floof like you for breakfast

I was at a bar where some marketing orangutans were discussing that the forefront of marketing was tricking chatbots into promoting your product or service via BS websites.

Cooked. Entirely cooked.

You cant win elections appealing to “both sides”.

10x

Its not “bottom line physics is the same” because the fucking aren’t. The actual construction of the fucking vehicle and its power train matters. This why everyone is dismissive of your point. You just straight up wrong here.

Go load up your wife’s Tesla 3 with 1k lbs of cinder blocks, and then find an equivalent stated HP ICE vehicle and do the same. Drive both of them up the same hill and tell me its the same thing. And if you TRULY want to experience the difference, find a manual transmission ICE equivalent.

Do you drive an EV?

ahh now I see.

Ty

I don’t get this one. Is she jealous of the redhead?

With the right setup

Yeah. That’s the entire point. The engineering changes the experience drastically. You can’t just say watts are watts and be done with it. Its a reductive approach to do so.

Bruh you bouncing all over this thread and getting it wrong in literally every fucking place you can.

THATS why I think you don’t know what ICE means.

Do you own an EV? Have you ever driven one fully loaded with fat boys versus an ICE shitbox with allegedly the same horse power? I have. I do weekly. I have many fat friends and we drive up hills.

You started this conversation on horsepower then moved the goal posts when it was inconvenient for you to stick with that framing. And moving it to Kw doesn’t change that, and its because there is a lot of “stuff” that happens between a watt being consumed (either via burning fuel or drawing from a battery) and an thing being propelled forwards, either on a flat surface or up a hill. And all that “stuff” make huge differences in terms of performance. Engineering actually matters for real world performance.

Yeah its just …

It’s not very cute 😡

And I want it more microvan style. Like I want to have a huge amount of windows and sit far forwards in the cockpit.

I’ll go back and look at that Kia again because it does seem very practical.

So you are very clearly new to the ev space.

ICE: Internal combustion engine.

You aren’t worth the bother. You simply don’t have a clue.

The MTG resignation is just such a fucking unforced L on her part. Like, she had the right rallying around her. She could have been their Coo-coo-for-coco-puffs replacement for when the cholesterol eventually does its job. She probably could even have bilked over the remaining TYT and Jimmy Dore fans to her cause.

But at the end of the day I think its about Trump and loyalty to Trump. We’re seeing it across primaries too; the reality is that actually, the “MAGA” part of MAGA aren’t particularly engaged in electoralism. “America First” represented expanded voter-ship into demographics which didn’t typically vote; so its not particularly surprising when they don’t vote in mid-terms. And if you follow RW media, Trump has fallen quite far out of favor, although you’ll see much mental gymnast-icking. And you see it in the exit data on the mid term primaries. Democrats are out-showing-up Republicans 2:1, compared to typical turnout.

So there are a few things going on:

1: Trump is still firmly in control of the party.

2: The party is falling out of favor with their activist base.

3: Republican equivalent of ABWD are still showing up, but the part of the Republican party that put Trump into power appears to have lost interest largely because of US support for Israel and the war in Iran.

This all points further to support the thesis that Trump won’t allow free and fair elections. Because there is a real divide within MAGA/ America First right now.