I assume everyone on Lemmy uses GrapheneOS on a Pixel 7 or LineageOS flashed onto a LG Tribute with zero Google apps, and everything backed up via nextcloud running on a headless Debian Raspberry Pie?
I’m just a scrub using stock Android. Am I the only one?
I have a pixel 6 pro running the stock OS. I will run it until it is on its last legs and decide where to go next. To use banking and government apps here, I’m somewhat limited in my choices.
Have you enjoyed it
When it came out, it had some issues that took a while to work out. Otherwise, it works without me noticing it the vast majority of the time which is what I want in a phone.
I’m on a Z Flip 😅 so nah you’re not the only one on stock Android. I want to grab a Pixel and switch to GrapheneOS, but I’ll have to wait until I can afford a new phone and when this one bites the dust since I only got it about a year ago. I unfortunately only found out about Android ROMs and got into cybersecurity shortly after I bought it
Honestly dude there are allot of compromises that come with it. You right with the system constantly at times and lose it on RCS of you rock it purely de-Google
Well I already fight with my computer constantly having switched to Linux lmao so it’s nothing new. But RCS is the one thing I’m worried about since my phone SIM is fucked up and SMS doesn’t work at all so I have to resort to Google Messages to text at all. I wonder if it’s to do with it being a virtual SIM? Or my phone being unlocked and not from the carrier? idk
It could be that your phone just doesn’t use the frequency bands supported by your carrier. For example, I recently bought a moto g84 5G and had to switch from a Verizon MVNO to a T-Mobile MVNO.
Stock? Nah.
I have something like a dozen tablets and phones stacked on my desk. I get new ones, but the old ones have enough life in them that I don’t just count them as ewaste and wash my hands of them. Only two of those have current lineage available, and I can’t be arsed to update what amounts to a picture frame that isn’t connected to Wi-Fi. The rest get used as security cameras for very short term use.
Most of them still have the os they came with as, again, I can’t be arsed to fiddle with the ones that I could dig up a rom for, or they couldn’t be unlocked to do it in the first place. But none of them were ever stock Android. Since when I got them, I favored Samsung and LG tablets, the ui was highly altered from regular AOSP.
Now, my main phone? My absolutely amazing friend gifted me a pixel with graphene ready to go as soon s it reached me. But I do still use some play store apps on it, when I can’t find something good enough that isn’t (nothing touches poweramp, and I haven’t had the budget to put towards a licence for it from the dev, yet. Higher priorities).
Never touched a pi unless it was a pie being shoved down my throat.
Ngl though, if I wasn’t lazy as fuck, I’d likely swap to lineage on my older oneplus that’s my backup phone. Just don’t feel like dealing with the time it would take. So it’s as stock as it was when I got it a few years ago. I doubt I’ll ever do it unless I get a newer graphene device and it gets retired to the desk for infrequent uses. That’s how I end up with a still working Galaxytab 2 lol. Barely still working tbh.
Remarkable! So you have been using graphene OS for a long-term? How would you rate it overall? Do you ever get frustrated by some of the limitations or jankiness that can come up with various apps?
iphone 17. never used android because i grew up with ios and i really am attached to the ui. im really not interested in switching to graphene or a pixel, at least until it gets better or until iphone is shown to seriously be unsafe. stock iphone is safer than stock android and i’ll stick by my opinion, but i know almost everyone in the privacy space disagrees with me.
/e/os on Fairphone 6
GrapheneOS on a Pixel 10. It’s easy to install if you ever want to step up from scrubland.
I can do without the innovations
/e/os/ on a Motorola One 5G Ace.
I’d love to be using GrapheneOS, but I refuse to lower my standards to a sub-par device, and certainly wouldn’t pay the Google tax for the privilege. So I’m currently using a Galaxy Note9 with NobleROM while hoping against all logic that the Motorola + GrapheneOS partnership doesn’t spit out another useless wet fart of a device.
The Motorola Signature looks like a good device so its successor should be too.
Sadly, the Signature is yet another victim of ‘innovation’. I have no use for a device that is doing the exact same as everything else at that price range. I’d sooner grab the Edge 60 Stylus, despite the significantly worse CPU.
I have a Samsung S24+ and the Moto Signature is better value.
The screen has a higher brightness, smaller bezels, higher PWM frequency and much higher brightness. It also has 90W charging and a flatter speaker response with more bass and midrange. All of those are compared to my phone, not your much older Note 9.
The GrapheneOS models are coming out next year, though they say it will be top of the range phones first. Whether that includes any below the Signature I don’t know.
It sounds like those features mean a lot to you. Especially brightness, apparently. But they mean little to me. I have no use for fast charging so long as the battery has enough capacity to last between charges. Smaller bezels mean nothing when the camera leaves a massive hole in that larger screen. I already own a high quality DAP, so I don’t need top of the line audio, just something I can listen to quietly on my studio-spec headphones. And despite brightness being so precious to you that you felt compelled to name it twice, I work nights, am nocturnal and my eyes are sensitive to light. Additional brightness means nothing when I never need it above 50%. I need utility, not boardroom-approved statistical refreshes.
What GraphaneOS features do you miss in your current ROM?
Basically everything privacy focused. NobleROM is just One UI from newer devices back-ported so I have modern Android without losing everything that made the Note9 so great. There are the standard problems with banking apps and such that I’ve seen Graphene users able to get around. I’m also hoping Graphene will have an answer for the installation limitations Google is pushing on Android. I see what they’re doing as going the way of a death by a thousand cuts and further their monopoly until they’re no different from Apple.
/e/ and iode have better privacy features than GrapheneOS. GrapheneOS have great security but doesn’t offer anything special when it comes to privacy. /e/ and iode will also let you avoid new installation limitations.
Galaxy A14, which was the only new phone I could afford for 140 Euros (+ 50 Euros for the 512 GB microsd card) that offered the longest security updates.
Thought of getting an used Pixel 2XL and install (now defunct) divestos on it, but then the battery would be certainly dead and didn’t want to risk replacing it myself.
Galaxy S24 ultra here
Pixel 6 pro with Graphene OS
I honestly don’t know. When my phone dies I go to the nearest phone store and ask for the cheapest android phone they have in stock. They ask me what brand I want, what features are important to me–cheapest. They warn me that the phone isn’t as good as OtherPhone’s–cheapest. And the battery…–cheapest.
If I had to venture a guess I’d say it’s a Redmi? And I suppose it’s bad.
It was 150€ 4 years ago. I can’t fathom sinking 500€ on a phone.Rooted Pixel 8 on lineageOS with mindtheGApps, I unfortunately still use some Google stuff, I am slowly de-googling. But I at least get slightly more privacy this way.
Gotta start somewhere. De-googling takes time and even if you never fully get there, just cutting off some of the big services that they harvest your data from like Gmail and Photos is a great first step.
iPhone 17
Motorola G73 because I can’t afford anything more expensive :(
I removed all the Google apps, but I can’t install a custom ROM as none support this device





