The US Navy has denied reports of food shortages on board two major vessels participating in the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz.

Yesterday USA Today reported crew aboard the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln and amphibious assault ship USS Tripoli were not getting enough to eat.

One photo taken by a Marine showed a mostly empty lunch tray with a single scoop of shredded meat and one tortilla.

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      Reminds me of Steak-umm. Ground up meat trimmings formed into a loaf that is sliced thin before cooking. Frequently used in place of higher quality cuts in cheese-steak sandwiches. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it presented in such a depressing manner, though.

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    Hegseth has begun to refer to the media as Pharisees, after the group of Jewish religious leaders now remembered as instigating the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

    Wow, these people are full on delusional. I hope they rot in hell for their obvious hypocrisy.

    America is beyond fucked.

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        I see the extreme plunging of religion among the newest generations and the deep backlash against the current brand of xenophobia. It gives me hope that things will go back to normal and maybe get some gains in a very short time.

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          We’ll see. Gen Z males showed up in force to vote for Trump in the 2024 election. Some of the younger ones are alright, but others are doing the whole Hitler Youth thing. Overall I couldn’t tell you if they’re any more or less shitty than any other generation, but their voting record isn’t off to a great start.

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        I don’t see us going back to normal for a long time

        what normal ? hanging black people ? slavery ? segregation ? invading some random country? vilifying native americans? shitting in a river? dumping battery acid in a stream ?

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      It’s interesting cause this is what American Christianity has been my whole life, go to any duck blind or Dairy Queen or high school football game, Hegseths are absolutely thick on the ground. These guys are there because they’re a mirror of their constituents.

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        You just call people who criticize you Pharisees in the US?

        I’m so glad I grew up with the united church, where the lesson was mostly help your neighbour and strangers.

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          Nope, but I did grow up around people who would hear that in a meeting and then absolutely want to use their new linguistic toy every chance they got, despite not at all analyzing even the half-layer deep that would be required to understand what using it implies about who you think you are (or your boss is).

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          That’s too big a word and too specific a bible reference. They’ll just ask if you’re some kind of queer and then vaguely threaten to shoot you.

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          No, only fuckheads like him do that. Most Americans wouldn’t even know that that means.

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          Yeah I don’t know what this guy is talking about. I grew up in a very rural very republican part of a southern state and I sure as shit never heard anybody call anybody a Pharisees.

          Or at least not outside of a church

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    Sorry, but I think this is fucking hilarious.

    Those people have gun and are evidently risking their lives for some greedy bullshit. If that’s not showing them that their leaders don’t give a shit about them, what would?

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    In the past, I’ve read that the US Navy ships are on skeleton crews already, and not anywhere near as effective as they used to be. For example, they’ve struck civilian ships due to short staffing and lack of lookouts. Maintenance is a huge problem.

    This was some years ago, and it was already a total mess. Is it worse now? Looks like

    Also, I think meals like this indicate graft somewhere in the supply chain, or some kind of colossal fuck up. We’re a lot closer to 90s Russia than we like to think.

    ETA found the article, from 2019

    https://features.propublica.org/navy-accidents/us-navy-crashes-japan-cause-mccain/

    “It’s getting harder and harder I think for us to look the troops in the eye.”

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        Like it’s true but usually that quantity needs to have a minimum standard. Throw a million men at 500,000 Nazis and you end up with a million corpses, give those men Mosin Nagants that mostly work and you have a million and a quarter corpses but also no Nazis. It’s a bit of a shit method but it works, so long as you know what you’re doing and can actually do it.

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          Just a side-note: The Soviets didn’t beat the Nazis with Mosin Nagants.
          They beat them after they had learnt to apply combined arms tactics and a sophisticated defense-in-depth strategy that protected them from counter-attacks, had more AND better tanks than the German average, a higher percentage of mechanized troops, and a 10x superiority in artillery pieces.
          The “human wave with commissars shooting anyone who retreats” myth is mostly post-war propaganda.

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            I’m aware. I wasn’t even thinking about the war as a whole but moreso the desperate defense against operation Barborosa and the Soviet throwing whatever they had at the Germans.

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            We know that they used human wave tactics in Finnish war and defense of Stalingrad from the people that were there

            They learned quickly, though, wave attacks weren’t the norm

            Ukrainians say they are using human wave attacks now. Russians call them “meat storms”

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    You know how Americans were making fun of Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine because it revealed that Russia had a super out-dated and under-maintained military? Yeah, about that… Turns out, we’re not so different after all. Not that I think we should be investing in the military, frankly we’re not close enough to qualifying as a democracy for me to approve of anything beyond non-interventionism.

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      It’s shocking that the US actually engaged in war with Iran so readily without the administration considering the known scenario of the Straight of Hormuz being closed by Iran. I’m amazed by the lack of planning and logistics for something that should have been planned and discussed a good while beforehand, but I guess I shouldn’t be with this administration.

      There really need to be safeguards implemented to prevent actions like this from just being conducted on the turn of a dime without any awareness of others, discussion, etc. beforehand.

      I used to think that illegal actions of the US Executive Branch would just fail like getting a 403 error when trying to access a Web resource without proper authorization, but I guess this was naïve to think.

      There really need to be major changes in the US Government to make it so that the mechanisms of government won’t so willing put illegal actions into play. Though the response of the courts has often been good, it is super slow and merely reactive. Instead, impermissible, illegal actions need to be preempted before the mechanisms of government carry them out.

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        There really need to be safeguards implemented to prevent actions like this from just being conducted on the turn of a dime without any awareness of others, discussion, etc. beforehand.

        These systems and safeguards exist, but they remain inactive due to political capture and entrenchment. You can make all the laws you like, but they mean nothing when oligarch rule prevents enforcement or encourages inconsistent enforcement.

        This is what I’m talking about when I say we’re not close enough to qualifying as a democracy for me to approve of our interference in foreign affairs. The people do not rule in the United States. We’re not a democratic republic, we’re an electoral oligarchy.

        Worse, we seem to be choosing this. States choose how their elections work. We could switch to a ranked voting system with a lottery option without the federal government being able to do anything about it. Heck, a lot of individual cities could do it, but people aren’t engaged enough to overcome local entrenched powers much less state and federal ones.

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        I think that in a rewritten Constitution, there would be automatic consequences if a public official fails to receive support. For example: 10 days after attacking another entity, the President requires a vote of approval. If not received, that President is removed from office. The vice president now needs approval within 10 days themselves, else they also get removed. And so on.

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        Trump had a plan:

        step 1. bomb everything in sight

        step 2: rape all the surviving kids

        step 3. become god

        step 4. blow bubba again.

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    It’s almost worse if there’s no food shortage and this administration just chooses to feed our service members like we’re still suffering through the Great Depression. Wish they’d stop voting for Republicans though, this is what you get…

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      Your fucking service members are killers for money, nothing else. Nobody attack USA to defenfd, they choose to kill for money, change for them, proffit for Donald/Biden/Obama/Bush/Clinton/“however is in charge”. Everything they get, bullet, PTSD, misserable life, everytning is deserved. KARMA IS A BITCH!!! Fuck them all.

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        You’re right, but you vastly underestimate the power of U.S. propaganda. A majority (not all) of the people who enlist have no clue what they’re signing up for. They were told it’s the right thing to do then suddenly they are stuck. Our schools don’t teach critical thinking like they used to so these poor souls are brainwashed into joining or their only other option is death on the streets.

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          I think there is a lot of misunderstanding in the world about the scale of the USA’s problems, what individuals in the military do, what caused them enlist, how our population is orders of magnitude greater than most nations and how that has such a powerful effect and consequence to our democracy / republic.

          I dont go around making these wild claims about other nations but many folks outside US see no issue for to make uninformed, inflammatory statements about us.

          Its easy for them say : military bad Its true but not comprehensively true, as if it would be so easy for us to just stop. This shit is an incomprehensible large machine that has inertia…and it truly truly sucks. But can we please prioritize blaming and holding accountable the mother fuckers making these damn decisions instead of a mother fucking janitor or an accountant or truly does fuck all and definitely isnt killing anyone.

          No doubt…unquestionably so, there will be investigations, eventually into the nature of attacks recently thst led to innocent lives being killed-- hopefully it is public enough for us to peer inside those happenings…

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          You can say the same for any fascist and warmongering country. Sub in Russia, Nazi Germany, etc. It doesn’t change a thing

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    Oh, that’s a tortilla! I guess it’s just the lighting that makes it look gray? I hope.

    You just know these guys will do their best for Epstein after weeks of eating nothing but the finest cuisine.

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          Have you seen milspec “food” before? IIRC, it’s “graded” right above prison quality (which is just above dog food, I believe?).

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        Could it be scrapple? It’s definitely some kind of processed meat that’s been fried on the flat top

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          Yeah, scrapple was what i was thinking too (there name escaped me when I posted the image though).

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      There’s a proper photo of the tortilla in the article. That grey thing is “unidentified” meat.

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        There are two photos that have been going around. One is a tray that has just a lump of minced meat and a couple tortillas, the other has a gray slab, minced meat, and boiled carrots.

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            It looks like a whetstone. At this rate, the sailors will need to sharpen their implements and start hunting each other for sustenance…

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          And both are in the article for the small minority that manages to click the link

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          One folded tortilla; apparently the grey thing is “gyro meat,” that’s not been shredded and reheated on a flat grill.