$49B company, all driven by labor.
So, next time use Matrix to send messages?
Schreier couldn’t be bothered to list what the employees positions were. Gonna take a wild guess they weren’t devs. Even better, the union Discord clearly has a leak. Now that’s how you protect workers, amiright, unless these employees were dumb enough to spread the word at work
union organising
discordpass, shit news though, unsurprising
I know Discord has it’s flaws, but why would that discredit them from organising a union? Would you referred if they had used Teams or an email chain?
It’s interesting how Discord absolutely nukes its own trust by pretending to be more than it is. I loathe discord, to the point I’d use a competitor (not teams) just to evade it. I’m sick of finding a hobby group using it as a Frankenstein forum / chat / info hub when it’s only built for chat.
Discord is fine for this use, but I’m getting used to the distrusting it so often that it blends into reasonable use.
It’s freaking everyone. Every niche is Discord now. It’s so annoying.
…That being said, this is likely a private chat group. That’s ostensibly what its for.
They probably should’ve used something anonymized with non-persistant chat, but still.
Hard to organize when you can’t look at history.
Not to mention, discord can easily be anonymous, and you can easily kill off viewing history.
True.
Makes me wonder how they got caught? Discord basically not anonymos by default, so maybe no-one anonymized and someone in the channel reported it all to managment?
I wouldn’t doubt they required some sort of “prove you’re in the company” or something, or were shooting the shit publicly in a way that would allow for easy identification.
Apparently they have a ¹BitchSky account, email, and phone line you can reach the unionist at. I am not particularly interested in non-cooperative owned businesses to deal with a self-defeating compromise. (2×🔗)
If they make a threadiverse account, jabber, or other privacy respecting p2p, then maybe I’ll ask them details of their discord leakage.
Previously decided never to buy a Rockstar game again (after an unplayable PC port on GTA 4) this just crystallizes that decision
Never talk about unionizing on company time, on company property, or with someone else that is, and especially with someone unvetted.
Keep it private, keep it quiet.
What GTA-like games do you enjoy by indie devs?
The closest I can provide is Wobbly Life which is unironically an awesome physics heavy GTA-like themed around being a destructive kid.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1211020/Wobbly_Life/
For driving jobs, hanging out in a living multiplayer city and driving feel that hits just right check out the rabidly loved Motor Town: Behind The Wheel.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1369670/Motor_Town_Behind_The_Wheel/
Contractville looks interesting but I haven’t tried it.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2698780/ContractVille/
Schedule 1 seems popular
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3164500/Schedule_I/
Inzoi seems like it is similar in the open world roleplaying sense
If you like the old-school top-down GTA feel, American Fugitive is super cheap now and is a good-ish game. Same dev has The Precinct, which is top-down GTA but you’re playing a cop.
The story is not a strong point with either, but if you need that, go to a different genre.
And there is also Rustler, which is ridiculously fun.
I also loved Simpsons Hit and Run, but that’s a bit old and IDK how indie was it.
If you like the old-school top-down GTA feel
You also HAVE to check out the quick multiplayer match topdown GTA-like Skillshot City. The gameplay feels super tight.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/308600/Skillshot_City/
Maniac is a singleplayer police escape arcade mayhem game with locked in topdown GTA-like gameplay.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1482380/Maniac/
In a different genre but still worth mentioning for having cool topdown arcade multiplayer & singleplayer combat is Running With Rifles
https://store.steampowered.com/app/270150/RUNNING_WITH_RIFLES
I can vouch for Motortown, even if it’s not a ton like GTA. There’s a surprising amount of gameplay detail considering the assets look low-detail. Great roleplay experience.
Motor Town is a behemoth, I have driven so many urgent taxi jobs I put myself on the taxi leader board for a hot minute without intending too… with all the driving I did manual not autopilot which I am not sure many of the other drivers higher taxi level than me do… lol
Yeah, Motor Town is GOOD.
Contractville is janky as hell and not anywhere near the scale of GTA. But it is damn fun.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 And Zoomers will continue to use discord after they specifically sold the unionists out.
Zamn.
discord after they specifically sold the unionists out.
Source, please? Nobody claimed that except you
read the title again…
One of the simplest answers is that someone likely was using it at work, and just left a window open while they went to the bathroom. Someone saw it and ratted. Until proven Discord shared the info, it’s a little dangerous to make the assumption.
One employee had access to multiple employees’ geolocation and mac address data through that one user account…
Now a little homework for you: How does Nintendo crush modders, emulators, fan works, and now patent infringers?
They were in a discord group. That’s a far cry from ‘discord selling them out’
Now get your critical thinking skills cap on: How did Rockstar Games identify each member of the discord group?
Screenshots of employee devices, having a mole in the group, etc etc? We all know there’s a million ways to gain information about people online, there’s literally a dozen comms on lemmy about privacy and protecting your info. Your critical thinking cap is more like a conspiracy theory cap.
It’s not impossible discord collaborated with rockstar, but it’s fucking unlikely. What would discord even have to gain from it that’s worth the risk?
So you’re implying to me, a mole managed to acquire what Discord has in it’s database, and managed to 1:1 identify employees and rat them out, instead of just bribing Discord to give them GEOlocation and MAC address information…
What would discord even have to gain from it that’s worth the risk?
Money. GTA is one of the most famous genre people make groups for. Why would you turn down a whale rancher’s bribe to identify employees willing to negotiate for better conditions when your rancher is a billionaire that can buy you?
Nah, they’re saying a member of the discord group might know the other members of the discord group. That member might rat out the other members.
We don’t respect you anymore though Rockstar.
It was like 5 years ago but I heard a family friend working there was making 27k as a mid level dev.
At a certain point the blame lies with the worker, I am pro union but jesus have some self respect and look for better.
Game dev is predatory because people can and will do it for free. Many “dream jobs” have this issue.
“Gross misconduct, and no other reason”… from 30 people at once? And they’re not going to elaborate on what the “misconduct” was?
Maybe we’re supposed to believe the fact they were all part of the same discussion to unionize was a coincidence, too?
My best bet is the Discord server had internal Rockstar files, and their angle is these files should have never been put on external servers, and that other Discord members should have reported it
just more evidence that you should only support smaller private companies, not corpos
Weren’t the antagonists of rdr2 the pinkertons?
developers usually know what’s up. assassin’s creed 4, a pirate game that mimicked the assassin’s creed series that ended with ac3, made the templar’s modern day front, abstergo, into a ubisoft parody. in that game abstergo literally makes assassin’s creed games with ulterior motives. it was almost like the devs were going “man, fuck this dumbass company” and did that as a middle finger to their bosses.
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Rockstar bad
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If you’re going to organize a union, don’t fucking use Discord…
If it’s good enough to overthrow a government, you’d think it’s good enough for a union
Some companies are wealthier than most countries.
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Pfft…Like y’all don’t know what to do with GTA VI.
Rockstar have been pieces of shit for decades. Didn’t change anything then, and unfortunately, it probably won’t now.
light my beard on fire?
look up the life and times of Edward Teach.
Huh, I assumed that photo was just AI nonsense. But from the Wikipedia article:
He was reported to have tied lit fuses (slow matches) under his hat to frighten his enemies.
Play it so much that you don’t notice your crew set your beard on fire and left without you?
Pirate it? Yeah, I’ll probably do that.
Like y’all don’t know what to do with GTA VI.
Wait 2 goddamn extra years or however long until they release it for PC.
The good news is by then I can easily justify upgrading my PC too. Right now it’s hard to justify upgrading from my RTX 3060 Ti, but by 2027 or 2028 when the PC version comes out, I’m sure that there’s something enticing available from all 3 GPU manufacturers (yay, we almost have competition now) and I can get the hell off Nvidia again finally.
yay, we almost have competition now
Hold your horses, Intel is going through some stuff, and I hope the GPU division survives.
Ugh I hope if it doesn’t they’ll at least sell it off to someone who can realistically keep it running. Though I have no idea who that would be at this point.
It’s going to suck if we’re back to the duopoly.
Don’t play it?
Roll it up with gunpowder, stick it in my ears, and light it on fire?
