• Moltz@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Schreier couldn’t be bothered to list what the employees positions were. Gonna take a wild guess they weren’t devs. Even better, the union Discord clearly has a leak. Now that’s how you protect workers, amiright, unless these employees were dumb enough to spread the word at work

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      2 months ago

      I know Discord has it’s flaws, but why would that discredit them from organising a union? Would you referred if they had used Teams or an email chain?

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        It’s interesting how Discord absolutely nukes its own trust by pretending to be more than it is. I loathe discord, to the point I’d use a competitor (not teams) just to evade it. I’m sick of finding a hobby group using it as a Frankenstein forum / chat / info hub when it’s only built for chat.

        Discord is fine for this use, but I’m getting used to the distrusting it so often that it blends into reasonable use.

        • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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          It’s freaking everyone. Every niche is Discord now. It’s so annoying.

          …That being said, this is likely a private chat group. That’s ostensibly what its for.

          They probably should’ve used something anonymized with non-persistant chat, but still.

          • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            2 months ago

            Hard to organize when you can’t look at history.

            Not to mention, discord can easily be anonymous, and you can easily kill off viewing history.

            • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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              2 months ago

              True.

              Makes me wonder how they got caught? Discord basically not anonymos by default, so maybe no-one anonymized and someone in the channel reported it all to managment?

              • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                I wouldn’t doubt they required some sort of “prove you’re in the company” or something, or were shooting the shit publicly in a way that would allow for easy identification.

  • AmericanEconomicThinkTank@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Never talk about unionizing on company time, on company property, or with someone else that is, and especially with someone unvetted.

    Keep it private, keep it quiet.

    • copd@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I think this comment will age like milk once GTA6 has been out on PC for a decade

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      2 months ago

      I pretty much only buy indie games at this point. Any game made by a company that benefits a stock ticker? You best believe I’m… (checks what comm I’m in) …Acquiring it. Lol

      Funnily enough the one exception to this rule that I probably would have made was BF6 but they forced me to sit this one out by barring Linux users 🤷‍♂️ So I’m playing Outer Worlds 2 instead rn.

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        Funnily enough the one exception to this rule that I probably would have made was BF6 but they forced me to sit this one out by barring Linux users 🤷‍♂️ So I’m playing Outer Worlds 2 instead rn.

        For some good battlefield alternatives that run great on Linux check out ->

        Easy Red 2

        https://store.steampowered.com/app/1324780/Easy_Red_2/

        Operation Harsh Doorstop

        https://store.steampowered.com/app/736590/Operation_Harsh_Doorstop/

        and Angels Fall First

        https://store.steampowered.com/app/367270/Angels_Fall_First/

        • tal@lemmy.today
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          So I’m playing Outer Worlds 2 instead rn.

          Oh, thanks. I didn’t know that that was out until you mentioned it.

        • Marafon@sh.itjust.works
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          Thanks for the recommendations! Especially Easy Red 2 👀

          I am a big fan of the Red Orchestra/Rising Storm series and there is a mod coming out soon for Rising Storm 2 called Black Orchestra that I’m planning to fill the Battlefield shaped hole in my heart with. It’s in beta right now, but you best believe I’ll be letting everyone know about it when it hits steam.

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        I’m the same way. I might have got BF6, I played the beta and fell in love cause it felt like BC2 which was my favorite BF game.

        Sadly the hoops I had to jump through to even get it to work on a windows system, let alone getting it to work on my Debian system, combined with the price tag was enough to hard push me away from buying it.

        It’s a shame because the game was stupid levels of fun, and felt organic. They just are out-casting their userbase by their decisions to block Non-Windows systems.

      • WolfLink@sh.itjust.works
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        I tried downloading the BF6 free demo and I had to jump through a bunch of hoops trying to get it to run just to find that because the last time I used my EA account was a decade ago, my Steam account is banned from their servers until I go through customer support to unlock it.

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        And that last bit is wild because the one that doesn’t require Windows for PC gamers is the one owned by Microsoft.

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    What GTA-like games do you enjoy by indie devs?

    The closest I can provide is Wobbly Life which is unironically an awesome physics heavy GTA-like themed around being a destructive kid.

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1211020/Wobbly_Life/

    For driving jobs, hanging out in a living multiplayer city and driving feel that hits just right check out the rabidly loved Motor Town: Behind The Wheel.

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1369670/Motor_Town_Behind_The_Wheel/

    Contractville looks interesting but I haven’t tried it.

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2698780/ContractVille/

    Schedule 1 seems popular

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/3164500/Schedule_I/

    Inzoi seems like it is similar in the open world roleplaying sense

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2456740/inZOI/

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      Contractville is janky as hell and not anywhere near the scale of GTA. But it is damn fun.

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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      If you like the old-school top-down GTA feel, American Fugitive is super cheap now and is a good-ish game. Same dev has The Precinct, which is top-down GTA but you’re playing a cop.

      The story is not a strong point with either, but if you need that, go to a different genre.

      And there is also Rustler, which is ridiculously fun.

      I also loved Simpsons Hit and Run, but that’s a bit old and IDK how indie was it.

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      I can vouch for Motortown, even if it’s not a ton like GTA. There’s a surprising amount of gameplay detail considering the assets look low-detail. Great roleplay experience.

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        Motor Town is a behemoth, I have driven so many urgent taxi jobs I put myself on the taxi leader board for a hot minute without intending too… with all the driving I did manual not autopilot which I am not sure many of the other drivers higher taxi level than me do… lol

        Yeah, Motor Town is GOOD.

        • Gerudo@lemmy.zip
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          One of the simplest answers is that someone likely was using it at work, and just left a window open while they went to the bathroom. Someone saw it and ratted. Until proven Discord shared the info, it’s a little dangerous to make the assumption.

          • _‌_反いじめ戦隊@ani.social
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            One employee had access to multiple employees’ geolocation and mac address data through that one user account…

            Now a little homework for you: How does Nintendo crush modders, emulators, fan works, and now patent infringers?

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              Screenshots of employee devices, having a mole in the group, etc etc? We all know there’s a million ways to gain information about people online, there’s literally a dozen comms on lemmy about privacy and protecting your info. Your critical thinking cap is more like a conspiracy theory cap.

              It’s not impossible discord collaborated with rockstar, but it’s fucking unlikely. What would discord even have to gain from it that’s worth the risk?

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                So you’re implying to me, a mole managed to acquire what Discord has in it’s database, and managed to 1:1 identify employees and rat them out, instead of just bribing Discord to give them GEOlocation and MAC address information…

                What would discord even have to gain from it that’s worth the risk?

                Money. GTA is one of the most famous genre people make groups for. Why would you turn down a whale rancher’s bribe to identify employees willing to negotiate for better conditions when your rancher is a billionaire that can buy you?

                • grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org
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                  Nah, they’re saying a member of the discord group might know the other members of the discord group. That member might rat out the other members.

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    “Gross misconduct, and no other reason”… from 30 people at once? And they’re not going to elaborate on what the “misconduct” was?

    Maybe we’re supposed to believe the fact they were all part of the same discussion to unionize was a coincidence, too?

    • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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      My best bet is the Discord server had internal Rockstar files, and their angle is these files should have never been put on external servers, and that other Discord members should have reported it

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    just more evidence that you should only support smaller private companies, not corpos

    • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Rockstar have been pieces of shit for decades. Didn’t change anything then, and unfortunately, it probably won’t now.

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      Like y’all don’t know what to do with GTA VI.

      Wait 2 goddamn extra years or however long until they release it for PC.

      The good news is by then I can easily justify upgrading my PC too. Right now it’s hard to justify upgrading from my RTX 3060 Ti, but by 2027 or 2028 when the PC version comes out, I’m sure that there’s something enticing available from all 3 GPU manufacturers (yay, we almost have competition now) and I can get the hell off Nvidia again finally.

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          Ugh I hope if it doesn’t they’ll at least sell it off to someone who can realistically keep it running. Though I have no idea who that would be at this point.

          It’s going to suck if we’re back to the duopoly.