Humans invented war? Tell that to ants, birds, bees, wasps, wolves, and millions of other animals. We just happen to be very good at it. If there’s one thing to be said about humans, it’s that we are ridiculously good at killing things.
I remember this was a thing in Larry Niven’s “Known Space” sci-fi universe. Humans had become super peaceful because we were too good at war. The way it was achieved however was to have everyone medically pacified, except for a handful of selected people for their insight…
Oh c’mon that’s like saying the cave painters of Lascaux invented cubism.
Yes, they both involve creating visual artifacts but one of them is orders of magnitude higher as a discipline. War as she is practiced today is a library’s worth of theory, history, practices, and knowledge.
Not to minimize the cave paintings. In their own way greater than any style, respectively.
That’s a silly analogy, if natural murder is analogous to cave paintings, modern war would be more suitably analogous to AI creations, not cubism. One cannot exist without the other either way. (we never get to AI slop without the cave painters before us)
Anyway, our planet is fundamentally violent, so of course we are violent. We know nothing else.
“Peace” is an ideal, and temporary, not the norm. Even as you look upon a quiet meadow, war is there should you pay attention. Maybe not for you at that point in time, but it’s there. Those cute bunnies feed those adorable foxes, and so on.
I get what and agree that is the peace some are aiming for but oppression is an act of violence. Allowing people to die from treatable conditions due to medical insurance issues is an act of violence. Allowing people to die of starvation while “surplus” crops are destroyed to keep prices higher is an act of violence.
Peace occurs when resources are plentiful enough for all, and distributed fairly to all.
Cost of livin’ gets so high,
Rich and poor they start to cry:
Now the weak must get strong;
They say, “Oh, what a tribulation!”
Them belly full, but we hungry;
A hungry mob is a angry mob.
A rain a-fall, but the dutty tough;
A pot a-yook, but d’ yood* no 'nough.
Humans invented war? Tell that to ants, birds, bees, wasps, wolves, and millions of other animals. We just happen to be very good at it. If there’s one thing to be said about humans, it’s that we are ridiculously good at killing things.
I remember this was a thing in Larry Niven’s “Known Space” sci-fi universe. Humans had become super peaceful because we were too good at war. The way it was achieved however was to have everyone medically pacified, except for a handful of selected people for their insight…
Oh c’mon that’s like saying the cave painters of Lascaux invented cubism.
Yes, they both involve creating visual artifacts but one of them is orders of magnitude higher as a discipline. War as she is practiced today is a library’s worth of theory, history, practices, and knowledge.
Not to minimize the cave paintings. In their own way greater than any style, respectively.
That’s a silly analogy, if natural murder is analogous to cave paintings, modern war would be more suitably analogous to AI creations, not cubism. One cannot exist without the other either way. (we never get to AI slop without the cave painters before us)
Anyway, our planet is fundamentally violent, so of course we are violent. We know nothing else.
“Peace” is an ideal, and temporary, not the norm. Even as you look upon a quiet meadow, war is there should you pay attention. Maybe not for you at that point in time, but it’s there. Those cute bunnies feed those adorable foxes, and so on.
Peace is when the oppressed can’t fight back.
I get what and agree that is the peace some are aiming for but oppression is an act of violence. Allowing people to die from treatable conditions due to medical insurance issues is an act of violence. Allowing people to die of starvation while “surplus” crops are destroyed to keep prices higher is an act of violence. Peace occurs when resources are plentiful enough for all, and distributed fairly to all.
Cost of livin’ gets so high, Rich and poor they start to cry: Now the weak must get strong; They say, “Oh, what a tribulation!” Them belly full, but we hungry; A hungry mob is a angry mob. A rain a-fall, but the dutty tough; A pot a-yook, but d’ yood* no 'nough.
Er, sure. Fine.
Mmmmnot sure where you grew up but over here we knew a lot more than just violence. Good food, for example.
Glad there’s no violence involved in the obtaining/creation of good food.