I can’t say I never downvote anyone but I get into these comment chains from time to time where really no matter what I post whoever I’m talking to downvotes every response but I generally shy away from downvoting even things I dislike. I don’t want to fall into an echo chamber where all I see are only the things I agree with.
Nope. Fuck em.
What happens when em gets reversed for ya?
All of you disappear when I close the app. This isn’t my life. Do what you want.
Dang I was really hoping you were going to respond ‘Ay’ to be punny. Anyways, no one here disappears (I mean unless they died) they are still there existing and influencing the world all the same like you. The only thing that disappeared was your ability to communicate to them via the app when you closed it.
I will gladly downvote anyone. People be saying some dumb shit.
Is it dumb or is it that you think it’s dumb. To be or not to be. You see I disagree with a lot of people but I see where they are coming from so I don’t think they are literally idiotic. I’m more apprehensive about living in a system where I only ever see what is agreement with whatever I think aka an echo chamber.
I didn’t say I downvote based on disagreeing. I said I downvote based on if it’s dumb. There are plenty of people that I disagree with that have salient points. The morons are the ones that get the downvote.
Ever notice how people tend to judge other’s intelligence by how much their opinions match their own?
Well I have the best and most correct opinions, so no problems there.
Nah it’s dumb
It is pretty common that people treat their views as an infallible truth. Anything they think is good and smart and any disagreement is bad and dumb.
I will absolutely downvote some people I disagree with if I think they are making a bad faith argument or I think their view is bad. If the masses decide my opinion is wrong then it will work out in the end. If not, then it must have been a bad comment.
You are, I am, we are the masses. I don’t mind disagreeing with people. I would be more bothered to be somewhere where everyone agrees and we have a culture of chasing off anyone who doesn’t aka an echo chamber. I’ll downvote people being mean because we can disagree and have civil discussion. Also someone blatantly trolling.
People are waaaay to judgy and rarely think outside of their bubble, country, ‘layer’ or can relate that there are differences beyond their knowledge. That’s why I only downvote when I am mostly sure to understand all this context, not just because I don’t like or agree with a statement 🤷
I also often get a lot of downvotes due to this ironically since I try to understand and ask questions (non hostile!) because I don’t understand.
It seems you and I are birds of a feather. Same experience here. Any divergence from the accepted norm, even if it’s just inquiry is typically met with downvotes. That is most places trend towards an echo chamber, not just here but anywhere online.
Try to live your life without worrying about votes.
Nah. I want to make sure I’m being kind enough to not deserve downvotes. It’s a lifelong battle.
Its more so a curiosity. I’ve noticed others behaviors and was wondering who lives for the downvote vs who is rarely smashing the down vote. This platform kinda fundamentally runs on down and upvotes.
This platform does not run on upvotes and downvotes, that’s Reddit. There is no algorithm here that is influenced by votes. In fact, there are some instances that don’t show or allow downvotes at all.
I don’t think that’s true.
Lemmy uses vote counts to decide what content to show, just like reddit. The details are described here:
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/contributors/07-ranking-algo.html
The main difference between lemmy and reddit regarding votes, that I’m aware of, is that the votes a user receives are not collated and shown on their profile.
The algorithm is between your left and right ear. If you believe votes have no influence on users behavior then I have some unfortunate news for you.
You specifically said “this platform”. This platform does not run on upvotes and downvotes.
I also said the algorithm is between your left and right ear, aka your brain. People act and react to stimulus accordingly. Downvote and upvotes psychology still exists on Lemmy.
My dude, we are part of this platform and some of us seem to care. So I’d say yes, it runs on those as well, but way less than others.
I’m not a dude.
I was speaking specifically about the down and upvote systems as it relates to the fediverse.
There are whole instances that don’t show votes at all.
Everyone is dude, dude. I don’t care how they identify or what they are equipped with. Dude is neutral as heck.
I know what you were speaking of, and I know those instances, at least some. Doesn’t change that we are not in a vacuum.
34 upvotes so far! Nice work!
Don’t downvote for agree or dislike. People are allowed to have differing opinions. I downvote for hate, or bad faith. Very little else.
Similar, if someone is just being mean to be mean.
I downvote comments that clearly break the rules of the community they’re posted in.
Very fair.
This. The original intent of the downvote on reddit was for things that actively take away from the conversations; not merely because you disagree with it.
Equally, the upvote was for things that contribute, not just for things you like.
I downvote with some hesitation. Maybe I just don’t get it.
Retaliatory downvoting is a lame thing to get caught up in. A certain type of reddit person will downvote every reply you make to them. Most often I think I’ll be ‘the bigger person’ and ignore their pettiness.
I get into these comment chains from time to time where really no matter what I post whoever I’m talking to downvotes…
I suggest avoiding such comment chains. If the person you are talking to is downvoting everything you write then you can be certain you are wasting your time.
Downvote if the person deserves it. You don’t know that the person is the one downvoting you versus someone else. Although if you’re in a conversation with someone who you feel deserves to be downvoted, you’re probably better off blocking and moving on.
Not always but in some contexts it’s kinda blatant aka you’re deep into an unpopular thread and like ten comments swwp back and forth and get downvoted literally at the same moment they respond. It’s unlikely anyone is clicking through who dislikes one side but doesn’t favor the other aka no upvotes for the other.
As for deserving. I usually don’t feel like someone is deserving, even if we are in disagreement on something. I appreciate views that are different from my own. It seems that’s not a common behavior. That is people will downvote just because they disagree which necessitates an echo chamber.
People have the right to find my shitty opinion shitty
I’m not arguing that one shouldn’t have the ability to downvote. More so asking if anyone else is generally apprehensive to downvote and more specifically enjoys opposing opinions. I find in most circumstances not just of Lemmy that people are more so looking for agreement aka an echo chamber without any dissent aka an echo chamber.
Because this medium isn’t workable for argumentative conversations.
That begs the question, which medium is.
Reddit, Twitter, Lemmy, etc. Most text based social media
Bruh, read these two comments back to back and see if you’re seeing what I’m seeing.
I’m indifferent, really. You can make the most benign post/comment possible and someone will downvote you for it, so you’ll get used to it. Plus, too many people here think downvotes are for disagreeing.
And just to prove my point, I downvoted your question for absolutely no reason. Idc how you vote in return, if at all.
Have a nice day ❤️
I upvoted you actually. Like anywhere online I’ve seen very negative people who get joy from others feeling bad or thinking they have made them feel bad. I always want to have a candid discussion with someone like that because it’s very curious to me.
So far the people I’ve been able to accomplish that with are very discontent in their life or something specific in their human experience but it’s a very small sample size. Most keep with shallow discussion more so like they’re playing a character.
Being downvoted yourself is not reason to start downvoting.
Now when people post links to videos without a text synopsis, that’s a reason to downvote.
What if they’re trying not to ruin spoilers?
Use the spoiler tags, that’s what they’re for.
Fair
I down vote very little. Used to down vote more until I discovered the joy of not voting. Now I get off on being withholding.
Vote edging lol.
I generally shy away from downvoting even things I dislike. I don’t want to fall into an echo chamber where all I see are only the things I agree with.
This is not how Lemmy works. If you don’t ever up or down vote anything, and if you have your client hide the up/down votes on all comments and posts, you will still see the same content as someone who prodigiously votes. Votes here are, in the truest possible way, optional.
But for people who do utilize up/down votes, they are a signal. Sometimes they’re a weak signal, sometimes a bad signal, and yet other times might be a strong signal from the community. How to evaluate the signal is a matter of continued debate.
Not really. I’m (somewhat) apprehensive to downvoting because all votes are public. So, I’m not gonna downvote someone who disagrees with me. I will (sometimes) downvote someone who is being an arsehole. If they keep doing it, I’ll block 'em.
Also, I don’t really get into comment chains to start with. If I say something and someone has something constructive to say, we might have a conversation. That’s fine. But if it’s negative, chances are I just won’t reply to it in the first place. If I feel like maybe I’ve been misunderstood, I might clarify, but I’ll only do that once. If the conversation isn’t going anywhere, I walk. It’s that simple. If you want a punching bag, I think these days you can get ChatGPT to do that.
Does it matter if people know publicly that you downvoted something? I feel like if I’m going to downvote I don’t need to hide it, but then maybe I’ve just got a confrontational streak sometimes.
