Six days ago, upgradeable laptop maker Framework tried to convince its fractious user community to live in a “big tent” after a Debian developer objected to the company’s sponsorship of Hyprland and its social media promotion of Omarchy, with both projects associated with politically polarizing viewpoints.
Antoine Beaupré, aka anarcat, demanded that Framework clarify its political position with regard to these two projects.
Hyprland, a Wayland compositor, is led by a “toxic and hateful community,” Beaupré observed, and Omarchy, a Linux distribution, comes from David Heinemeier Hansson (aka DHH), a controversial figure in the Ruby and Linux communities.
not “polarizing”. nazis are unacceptable for all reasonable people, right?
hate this manipulative language.
I don’t buy from fascist supporters if I can help it. Screw Framework
I’ll admit I’m not up to date on the hyprland/vaxry lore – but I don’t understand the level of outrage based on this article…
I’m also not sure why the sponsorship of a software project is necessarily being treated as a 100% endorsement of both the maintainers and their alleged views.
I’m also not sure if infighting and purity testing will help the movement(s) right now. Once it’s the norm, sure, but it’s still a relatively fringe movement within the industry.
Edit (2025-10-15@20:14): At the time of writing my comment, I was both unaware (and uninformed) on the DHH side of this topic. While I still think the level of outrage is maybe a melodramatic, the push back seems more warranted than it initially seemed to me. I still don’t know much about DHH beyond Rails (and even then, not much); but from what I’ve seen since my comment, the response is more understandable.
If we deleted everything written by insufficiently pure developers, we wouldn’t have a Linux desktop. Especially if we count the ones that were smart enough to not bring up anything political in public.
Not a fan of DHH, but then you delete Rails then there’s no GitHub, GitLab, Mastodon, and many many other things given how popular Rails is, and that’s just that one guy.
If you include all the sketchy stuff that happens in the supply chain mining the minerals, processing, assembly all the way up to the final computer product, you just can’t morally justify supporting any manufacturer either.
This really doesn’t do anything useful other than feeling good to not support one of those guys. If anything it just adds extra political drama that feeds into a much bigger worldwide division problem.
@Max_P @stewie410 This is just wrong. Taking a stand against things like this causes change for the better in the long run. Rails will survive without DHH, like Linux survived without Reiserfs and MySQL survived after Larry Ellison. There may be some pain involved, but we owe it to ourselves to tread the better path, and make bad people just socially unacceptable.
As I added in another comment, I misunderstood the DHH element of the discourse as I, admittedly, don’t know much of anything about him – I’ve heard some references here and there, but that’s about it.
Taking a stand against things like this causes change for the better in the long run.
That’s also fine, and I generally agree. My concern basically boils down to killing momentum by sinking a company with (probably?) sane views on right-to-repair & libre as topics.
If the goal of a boycott is to starve the company until it goes under, because they made a move we don’t like – then that I don’t really like in this context. If the goal is to force their hand towards at least transparency, or maybe force NP to step down; then I’d support that.
See also: javascript and Eich
Ah, to live in a world without JavaScript and weird, Nazi crypto dipshits 🥰
The developers of those projects would have just chosen a different language if Rails never existed.
(Imagines a timeline where absolutely everything is still written in PHP)
Oh hell no
The people who pretend that they can keep politics out of their life are always the people who are benefiting from the current political system. Nobody else in the world is so ignorant.
Definitely, but there’s a middle ground between “let’s pretend politics doesn’t exist”, and “you must 100% agree with my views or I’ll cancel you”.
Sure, but maybe that middle ground is pretty far from supporting people who believe things like the problem with Britain is that it is no longer sufficiently white and active steps should be taken to fix this?
Þe comments devolved into flamewars, but it boils down to: if you take money I spend wiþ you and give it to people who want to oppress me, I’m going to stop buying your product.
Þe issue isn’t Framework using Hyprland or Omarchy; it’s þat þey’re giving computers and money - material support - and moral support by talking þose projects up in social media (especially Omarchy).
Þere’s a big difference between using FOSS led by a politically controversial figure, and sending the figure money. Especially when þat money derives from customers said figure openly claims to want to oppress.
Yeah, sometimes its not practical avoiding certain projects (see fucking JavaScript), but promoting and funding is a major barrier and red flag…
Offtopic, but whats up with the cyrilic looking character you are using? Is it to fuck with bots or something else entirely?
If I’m mot mistaken, it’s a cool character English USED to have for the “th” sound. Would be neat if it came back, if that’s the goal 👀
It’s the thorn character
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(letter)
Bonus: In printing, the Y character was often used as a stand in instead of creating a dedicated thorn printing plate. So places named ‘Ye Old Shoppe’ the ‘Ye’ is actually ‘The’
Þis is one of my favorite TIL for þis past year, and it’s all þanks to thorn!
Using thorn in English is a pathetic bid to appear smart.
I dunno, personally I þink it’s just fun to use. :3
– Frost
Weird way to say that you haven’t heard of yinglets.
Most of the discourse was about Omarchy/DHH, not just Hyprland, though that was a part of it. It is not purity testing to block people who don’t work well with others or are hateful like DHH from a community. If you want to bring people who want us dead into a community then everyone else is going to leave
The main problem is
- Np contributed to and glasses Omarchy
- People wonder why DHH was sponsored with hardware
- Generic response about “big tent” ideology to include everyone - including racists and transphobes like DHH
- People are upset because they don’t want to be in a Nazi Bar
- NP makes twitter post about how people want to ascribe values to him he doesn’t hold, that he’s pro immigrant and pro lgbt
- Np responds in forum thread that they reviewed hyprland and determined that theyd improved their moderation and were ok to sponsor (monetarily)
- Framework responds they’ll make a blog post clarifying their sponsorships
- Blog post coincidentally excludes omarchy
- People question it and basically just get a “we will get that updated” response
- I still dont see it there
You cant claim to be pro immigrant and pro lgbt when you actively invite white supremacists and transphobes into the community and then try to avoid responsibility for that by not commenting or not retracting support or not clarifying how you’d avoid it going forward
The project may not be political (it is) but the people who use and support the project definitely are. If you want to kick out the community by inviting Nazis, then all that will be left once those people leave will be nazis. And if you knowingly collaborate with Nazis, you are a nazi.
The main problem is […]
I’ll admit, I only vaguely know of DHH by name and Rails, vaguely remember the Omarchy announcement, and that’s about it. I seem to recall Prime referencing DHH’s controversial opinions, but I can’t say I’ve gone any deeper than that.
If the discourse really is primarily focused on DHH/Omarchy, then I guess I just misunderstood this post/title & the article…or just don’t have the full context regardless.
I still dont see it there
Because the “update” to the blog post was:
Note that this list does not include products sent for marketing use or R&D use
As a way to not talk about DHH/Omarchy directly, or the promotion they were doing (which was many times more than anything else they were talking about).
You’re right, we should let it build up fascist momentum and then change it from within later
if I dip a pH strip in my drinking water and it indicates my water is acidic, am I not entitled to stop drinking from that source because it failed my purity test?
Let’s not confuse “entitled” with “justified”. Of course you are legally entitled to boycott whatever you want, nobody seems to question that. The issue is whether or not you can be legitimately criticism for it.
Suppose that you had 20 glasses, you tested 4 of them and found that 2 were “too acidic”. Are you then justified in drinking the other 18 glasses?
The reality is that you have probably personally supported people who are far more egregious than the subjects here. Abusers, murderers, rapists, etc… Is your support of them an endorsement of their actions? Is your/societies providing medical care to these people an endorsement of their actions?
No. We can parse between what actions we endorse and what actions we don’t, because we are rational beings. Or rather some of us are.
it just sounds like you’re bending over backwards to make trans and racialized people drink polluted water. and you’re trying to convince the rest of us that the water is just fine actually because you have a reverse osmosis system installed (being cis or white)
No, I pointing out that the filters don’t actually work.
Transphobic and racist behaviour isn’t going to disappear just because you boycott it.
The consequences of bigotry aren’t reading mean tweets, it’s going to a job interview and having the prospective employer think “eww… I don’t like this candidate”. Boycotting is not going to fix that, because your purity test can’t even detect it.
I don’t purity test people because the reality is that most/all people have some harmful notions, it’s not productive or good for anyone to ostracize them so long as we can promote the good they do, and mitigate the harm.
- where the fuck did you see me advocate for a boycott? you just made that up.
Transphobic and racist behaviour isn’t going to disappear just because you boycott it.
- this is the only point I can agree on with apologists such as yourself. none of us have to boycott Nazis when shooting them is much more cheap and effective
Shunning/shaming is a type of social boycott. You spent the entire discussion describing boycotting without using the term.
But it’s nice to see that you object to boycotting and instead plan to murder people.
One thing I can take solace in is the fact that extremists tend to be too stupid, lazy and drug-addicted to even do the most basic revolutionary activities.
One thing I can take solace in is the fact that extremists tend to be too stupid, lazy and drug-addicted to even do the most basic revolutionary activities.
if we’re doing criticisms now, you’re failing to do the most basic of revolutionary activities by deep-throating the Aryan boot instead of simply polishing it like a normal quisling should
But it’s nice to see that you object to boycotting and instead plan to murder people.
I would never ever advocate for murdering people because Nazis aren’t considered people. they decided to abandon their right to life by advocating for taking mine away
Tech companies and preventable controversies: name a more iconic duo.
I don’t support the views of the endorsed projects, but surely a better reaction would be to suggest alternatives instead of just screaming for outright dismissal? I keep reading that “omarchy is just a bunch of scripts” and “hyperland is just one tiling window manager”. If that’s the case, there probably are better alternatives no? Or if it’s as easy as described why not fork it?
Complaining without an alternative or a solution is not productive, IMO
Complaining without an alternative or a solution is
not productivehow internet outrage operates, IMOFTFY
And yeah, Framework is one of the few manufacturers designing specifically for Linux compatibility and repairability, and omarchy/hyprland Devs are apparently shitty people. If you think they shouldn’t be associated, suggest a different project not run by (possibly) literal Nazis instead of foaming at the mouth and screaming incoherently… doesn’t seem that difficult.
This is the biggest issue with niche communities: purity tests. They can’t unite under one goal and have productive discussions. They are more focused on being correct (their interpretation of correct) and shutting out the incorrect than getting closer to a goal. Sometimes incorrect can be as little as choosing the wrong utility and other times it can be much bigger but they all spark the same amount of ire.
Is it a purity test to not financially support trans people being harassed by Hyprland mods? To not support a figure who supports ethnic cleaning in England?
It’s one thing for people to just not philosophically buy into people being trans, or even have opinions on trans sports, without mistreating other people, but active harassment shouldn’t be endorsed. And I don’t know how someone justifies ethnic cleansing.
Not everything is a purity test, and at this point, I feel that likening something to that just means there’s a good likelihood that the person hasn’t done their research or is dogwhistling. Either way, the Overton Window has now moved so far right that people don’t blink an eye at calling it “purity testing” to expect an organization not to financially support openly white supremacists.
Yep, here we go. I’m a nazi now 🙄 This is exactly how you edge people out. You’re just the another flavor of “everything I don’t like is wOkE” but instead “everything I don’t like jNaZi!”.
Nobody’s in the middle. There’s no nuance. You’re either on my side or you’re an enemy. Life’s just that simple.
Yep, here we go. I’m a nazi now 🙄 This is exactly how you edge people out.
“You don’t agree with me? Must be a Nazi” / “You don’t agree with me? Must be woke”
👍
Meanwhile in reality:
“Why are all these people calling me a nazi, I just think nazi’s should receive funding is all!”+
👍
I firmly believe there are ways of being a centrist without being a Nazi. Hell, I believe you can be a pre-Trump-era Republican without being a Nazi. But there are also fascists who self-identify in these factions, and they benefit from the smokescreen of the “Everyone I don’t like is a Nazi” fallacy of argument. There is nuance. I can’t help but feel that you’re projecting.
Ethnic cleansing and its supporters are definitionally fascists though, and I don’t believe organizations should support those people. And David Heinemeier Hansson, like the Nazis, is a fascist. And I find it suspect and disturbing that people are referring to that as purity-testing.
I firmly believe there are ways of being a centrist without being a Nazi.
If your default is equating “centrist” to “nazi”, then I wonder what kind of experiences you had but it’s so far from mine that it’s pointless to continue this.
Not my default, but okay, you’re clearly bad faith. I’m done. Goodbye.
I don’t think we should work with scum like DHH and vaxry just because some asshole lib might accuse us of purity tests
If “not working with people who are maniacs who want you dead” is a purity test I’m dusting off my Inquisition book
The entire ecosystem is full of purity tests. You don’t have a CoC? Must be a Nazi! Don’t use the right license? Probably a capitalist! You use systemd? Must be a Apple insider! You don’t use systemd? Fuck off you troglodyte. Oh my you said “no politics”? Definitely a lib! What’s that 🏳️🌈 flag? OMG what a woke commie.
Everyone draws the line somewhere else. Just because you draw it at DHH doesn’t mean you’re better.
TL;DR;
It’s weird to be upset at people for having personal boundaries/morals/ethics.
Using “purity test” like a pejorative, because using a more accurate term makes your argument sound bad, is a bad faith approach.
You say “purity tests” like it’s some sovcit term imbued with magical powers, like DEI or woke.
Headcanon replace it with “personal ethics and morals” and you might see how some of those arguments are really just people having boundaries.
An example of what i mean.
This is the biggest issue with niche communities: purity tests.
They can’t unite under one goal and have productive discussions. They are more focused on being correct (their interpretation of correct) and shutting out the incorrect than getting closer to a goal. Sometimes incorrect can be as little as choosing the wrong utility and other times it can be much bigger but they all spark the same amount of ire.
vs
This is the biggest issue with niche communities: personal ethics and morals.
They can’t unite under one goal and have productive discussions. They are more focused on being correct (their interpretation of correct) and shutting out the incorrect than getting closer to a goal. Sometimes incorrect can be as little as choosing the wrong utility and other times it can be much bigger but they all spark the same amount of ire.
See how the rest of that statement sounds without the bad faith, magic-word interpretation ?
I’m not expecting any good faith arguments in response, so don’t worry, this was a just-in-case kind of thing.
Great argument there. Replace what I say with whatever you think it says and go on from there. Should I just do the same with yours and we’ll see what kind of nonsense comes out? I’m sure that would be in your interpretation of “good faith”.
But don’t worry, I don’t expect a coherent response. This was a just-in-case kind of thing 😉
Great argument there. Replace what I say with whatever you think it says and go on from there.
I mean, yes… that is what i did… i explained as i did it.
Should I just do the same with yours and we’ll see what kind of nonsense comes out? I’m sure that would be in your interpretation of “good faith”.
Was this a preface to actually doing this? is there a part of the text missing ?
Y’know, knowing that you live in DACH, I can’t help but read this as sour grapes: if only you were allowed to be more fascist, but those mean old online communists just won’t let you!
TL;DR for just updates since the initial story: Basically say that they believe Hyprland cleaned up after having an initial problem and totally ignores all the stuff about DHH, despite that seeming to be the biggest problem people had with what they’ve been doing.
Here‘s my take as a relatively tech savvy guy with no introspective into the Linux scene and its political affiliation: I’ll buy framework products because of the repairability and upgradability as long as I can run whatever I want on it.
Most consumers that are sustainability minded (like myself) have no clue what hyprland or omarchy is.
I’m sure it’s a big deal within a small niche but the average consumer won’t know or care.
literally how fascists make their money
I would agree if they weren’t FUNDING Nazis. That’s coming out of the cost of your laptop buddy
Wait is Vaxry really a fascist? I always got weird vibes over on discord server( I was one of the earliest adapters to Hyprland). I did hear some transphobic allegations, but I thought that was it and Vaxry went on to implement stricter moderation?
If so, that really sucks. Hyprland is probably the best Wayland Window manager.
But now that you are aware but you choose to bury your head in the sand. Okay…
We already know people like you already made up your mind. What’s the point of this comment? Was this post going to stop you?
To be honest i just read some abbreviations and terms i dont understand and I really do not have the time to go down the rabbit hole.
I just wanted to add a viewpoint to the discussion that the potential commercial target group larger is than the bubble in which some of the people here seem to be. I find this legitimate.
Framework has directly and indirectly supported devs that are far right, one much more hard right than the other, but both are far right.
The direct is money. Indirect is marketing.
You don’t really need to dig into anything here, those two sentences sums up the entire situation.
Thanks for the clarification. In the face of modern debates there is only black and white - if you’re not like us, surely you’re like them. I don’t find it cool that they support right ideologies.
I’m against it and I will keep it in mind for future consideration, but supporting the right surely is not the extent of the things they have done or what they are actively doing.
Where there’s light, there’s shadow and the message for right to repair and their exemplary designs for repairability also has an impact on society as a whole.
I can find it shitty that they support people who I disagree with ideologically and great that they make repairable and sustainable products.
I absolutely agree that its great that they support the right to repair. That is, to me, what makes the response here so disappointing.
I personally do not want my money to feed the far right, and the simple fact is, that is where a portion of framework purchasing is going. These are not projects where there is a person or two within a large group who are far right, but projects where they are the project fundamentally. What throws me as well is the choice of Hyprland (financially) and Omarchy (marketing - heavy, heavy marketing). Even more odd, DHH again with Rails World with an alarming amount of money - five times what they gave to the Linux Foundation, double what they gave to Gnome, 2.5 times what they gave to the Linux Vendor Firmware Service, 50 times what they gave to the Open Hardware Summit, 12 times what they gave to KDE Akademy and DebConf…
Writing that out makes it feel even weirder. Rails World. How in the hell does Rails World even fit in with what Framework does?
It isn’t just supporting a few shitty people in a mix of other things, its far outsized support.
Reminder Right-wingers are pro-capitalist & capitalists are anti right-to-repair
Plenty of right wingers get one thing right, and being able to repair something isnt inherently anti-capitalist either.
Edit: To quote someone I just saw on the FW forum, who is 100% a DHH supporting right winger:
Not necessarily. Right to repair is of course positive for the environment as it reduces waste. But I think that’s a consequential effect rather than main objective.
They see the main object as saving money. Which… is really funny to me, because the most cost effective would be to sell your whatever laptop after a few years and buy new, framework is nowhere near a cost effective choice.
But anyway.
Oh, I guess I’ll look into it then. Thank you for writing it up!
https://frame.work/blog/framework-sponsorships
This is the blog post where you’ll see the money. DHH is Omarchy and Rails, Vaxry is Hyprland. Hyprland got, functionally, a pittance, and Vaxry (while on the right) I don’t personally see as being anywhere near as terrible as DHH.
If you want to know about DHH, rather than read articles, you can look at his blog directly. - https://world.hey.com/dhh. Scan the titles of posts and you’ll find his positions pretty quickly, and you can read the posts themselves where he references the white replacement conspiracy theory and more.
Kindof amusing to see people call “purity testing” on people who object to someone who’s quoted as being upset by checks notes a lack racial or ethnic purity.
[Sarcasm] C’mon everyone, can’t we just get along and hold hands with racists and people who consider us subhuman? As long as what they’re doing doesn’t bother me personally you’re all overreacting and fragmenting this
nazi barcommunity!It’s called the tolerance of intolerance.
This definitely had a negative impact on my view of framework, can’t say I’d buy from them again.
Same. Considering sending an email to tell them this.
Already have, along with my concerns about the outsized money going to essentially DHH events.
Might even sell my FW, I don’t think I want to be associated with the brand at all.
Which brands are acceptable to be associated with?
(I don’t own one, and I’m not familiar with what other brands are available these days.)
A great question. MNT would probably be the best answer - open source hardware to create open source hardware, uses the fediverse, F/LOSS focused, no venture capitalists/investors, etc.
If we go most ethical option right now, I’d say its keeping the hardware you have running. Framework is far more niche, which is where it becomes a brand statement more quickly than, say, grabbing a used thinkpad and dropping linux on it.
Edit: Just to mention, I’ve been debating getting a Pocket Reform for myself of late. I might build my own though with some changes, and just get the board from them.
The weird thing for me is the financial support coming from Framework to Hyprland. It would be one thing if Framework was working with Hyprland to test compatibility and functionality on their machines and do specialized bug testing. They could kind of justify that from a purely technical stance.
But the fact that they picked a very niche project for no apparent reason to support with a significant monthly financial contribution is so strange. There are numerous other niche distros/projects that aren’t mired in controversy that Framework could have worked with, (Alpine, Void, ElementaryOS, etc.) so why Hyprland/Omarchy?
Very disappointed. I’ve been pushing Framework computers very strongly for friends and family over the last year, plus I’ve been planning on getting one to replace my aging Thinkpad. Now I am going to hold off until the dust settles on this.
Supporting Hyprland definitely looks like a mistake, they weren’t aware of what went on around there.
They probably should have gone with supporting Niri and maybe Cosmic instead.
I agree, but then why would they not retracted their support? If it really was an honest mistake and they weren’t aware of the situation, I would think they would apologize, explain that they didn’t know, pull their support, and issue a statement about the kinds of values they want to promote in the FOSS world.
But instead, they have doubled down, the CEO himself. It’s very strange and concerning.
Sort of.
They basically said they didn’t know about the issues with hyprland, they recently looked into them and to them in looks like hyprland has changed enough to be supported.
But, they were silent on the DHH. That part is the serious concern.
Yes, them not saying anything why they support that hiterlite scum is quite concerning. I think the CEO is just mad he got caught trying to startup a Nazi bar
Omarchy uses Hyprland, so I guess they started by promoting Omarchy and maybe DHH asked them to sponsor Hyprland
I love how they always portray projects like this as “politically polarizing”. You look inside and it’s always just plain old not-polarizing misogyny. Really shows where this “news” outlets stand.
The media has been complicit in all of this by sanewashing all of the insane shit that’s constantly happening.
I don’t even understand what the article said! Bro we are cooked so bad with politics.
Yeah, cause people like you want to pretend that everything isn’t political.
Enjoy your modular laptop with the Nazi takeover. So glad you’re above it all. Tell us the aromatic profile of your flatulence again.
Relax men! I put limit on politics and where I use it, because on the end I will have no life.
Context for those OOTL
DHH Is Way Worse Than I Thought
DHH: “London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late ’90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it’s no longer full of native Brits. In 2000, more than sixty percent of the city were native Brits. By 2024, that had dropped to about a third. A statistic as evident as day when you walk the streets of London now.”
Author: It turns out that when DHH says “native Brits”, he’s specifically referring to white Brits. That’s why it’s “a statistic as clear as day when you walk the streets of London”: it’s his coy way of saying that too many of the 59% of Londoners born and raised in the UK are not white.
So if David means “white Brits”, why doesn’t he just say that? Why bother with the innuendo Because complaining that there aren’t enough white people sounds weird and racist! David bristles at that label, but there’s a reason he’s hiding behind euphemisms rather than just saying what he means. Most people don’t go around thinking “boy, all these Black and Asian people make this city so much worse.”
Well, u should watch Kurt Caz on youtube. Checkout London, Barcelona, Brussel. Then tell me that there isn’t a problem going on. Racism is not to be defended, but you can’t just call everything racism when countries are going to shit.
Already DHH take it easy.
“You can’t call everything racism!”
looks inside
Blatant Racism
mfw europeans are hitlerite
Grouping a whole folk as hitlerite, that’s quite hypocritical good sir
you had no problem grouping a whole folk as problematic but suddenly when its about you now you have a problem with it?
No i dont and just because my opinions are stupid that shouldn’t mean that you can be hypocritical. I am stupid and know it, but you pointing out blame and doing it yourself is just funny
I am stupid and I know it
Then why are you expecting me to be any better if you don’t want to stop yourself here and begin the introspection?
Somehow you want people to read your arguments and change their opinion but when people ask you to do the same you just declare you are stupid and refuse to do the very thing that you expect others to do?
correct, if u want to take the moral highground u can’t be contradicting urself. Im not here to convince anyone, besides why would i document my whole introspection here? Maybe my opinion has changed after engaging on this post. That’s what internet forums are for, u say stupid stuff then someone corrects u and u can adjust your views. No need to type it out, unless u want to be my therapist
Last I visited, Barcelona was beautiful and the people living there adored it. London isn’t terrible either, although housing is extortionate due to ‘investors’ and landlords
But is the reason these countries are “going to shit” race related? And what exactly does “going to shit” mean?
Since you referenced Kurt Caz, a notorious racist and xenophobe, I’m guessing your answer is yes and “less white”, but us adults in the room wonder about the real issues and their causes.
“Us adults” lol. Look at crime statistics. A certain minority causes a disproportionate amount of the crimes. Look I’m not white myself, and not all immigrants are bad. But lately EU has had a lot of problems because of refugees and migration. Housing shortages, increase in crime. It isn’t just black and white. There is more nuance to it than too far right and being racist, and being too far left and ignoring that there are problems caused.
As for Kurt I only know him walking around in favelas hahah, so whoops not the best example. But his videos do show the growing problems in cities
You are being fed BS. There are no crime statistics that show this once you actually look at the data in an unbiased way, but there are a lot of people which present the data in ways that are easy to misunderstand (on purpose).
Possibly, no one is immune to propaganda. And I might be completely off by linking it to increase in migrations etc. But it’s getting less appealing to be walking around alone at night in the major European Cities.
Why less appealing? There is no increase in crime or anything else that makes that less appealing (other than that a lot of small shops closed during the pandemic or are being priced out by real-estate speculators), you really need to stop believing the lies these social media influencers feed you.
Take the train to Brussel and let me know how you find it
Given you’re regurgitating bullshit that could be disproven by a child, yeah, you’re not an an adult.
People here complaining about purity testing even though really it’s just poison testing.
The standard isn’t even if it’s pure in ideology it’s to test is not poisonous.
People have opinions. More news at 11
The opinion being debated: “is transphobia bad?”
Can you link me to the transphobia? Is it this? https://world.hey.com/dhh/bad-therapy-08849dc9
Yes obviously lol
It’s not obvious to me. Which bit is transphobic exactly?
I’d assume the transphobic part is where DHH goes to bat for Shrier, who is transphobic, and he’s glad that she’s overcome the “censorship mob”. Oh and also the part where he recommends people read said transphobic author’s book.
Do you need to be spoonfed any more? The blog post isn’t that long.
