I really think they need to do a Frame Lite that just does streaming. A 16GB ARM powered standalone device was probably a great idea two years ago, but now we have all this. *gestures to fucking everything*
Considering Valve’s customer base, this is really what I expected out of the Frame. I find it odd that they focused on standalone compute alongside a novel streaming function (foveating streaming) when the two are mutually exclusive in gaming use.
Because translating x86 to ARM will kick Microsoft while they’re already down. This is just the justification to the means.
Amanda after 15 mins: wait, don’t we want to steal every piece of data of every user??
While the steam hardware survey is opt in, it is still data harvesting lol
True, but consent always makes things feel different.
Very elementary!
She is giving me Dr Who vibes in that photo.
Is it true that their only like 5 engineers (exaggerated obviously and rule all of valve code)?
I reject the notion that technological advancement requires teams of hundreds of engineers.
That being said, the above statement is less and less true every year (look to physics atm), but VR still has a lot of low hanging fruit that need funding OR passion, not necessarily both
Certainly not 3 🤷
Now if they hire Guy Godin as well, the wireless VR dream team will be complete
Has there been any news on some kind of proper VR desktop? Not a version of windows but something that is a new OS shell and can be used with a keyboard and allows task switching and using multiple VR apps at once?
I think Macs Vison Pro was somewhat geared for productivity. Might be sorta what youre talking about.
There are multiple such projects, for example: https://wiki.vronlinux.org/docs/fossvr/stardust/
But the same wiki mentions a few more.
The problem is that the hmd resolution isn’t really good enough for reading small text.
Thanks! And yeah I expect higher resolution to be the real killer app for VR. Once you can actually replace a multi monitor setup with VR?
I was told the Apple headset’s resolution is like the lower limit in resolution for that to work ok, so I guess those type of screens will come to more affordable HMDs some time in the future.
did you forget that Linux exists?
It should definitely be on the basis of linux, but not really what I mean. I mean a UI OS shell optimized for VR and things like eye tracking and controllers and how to switch from controller to keyboard. This is like an unsolved problem afaik. Like IOS and android designed a new shell for a non-desktop platform. I read a bit about Apple Vision Pro how they designed their UI widgets with eye tracking in mind.
At the minimum I want to be able to play a VR game like Elite Dangerous and pull up a video chat panel or browser window / notepad to look up stuff without exiting the game.
reminds me of that one episode of community
Which one? It’s been a while and I haven’t seen the last season I think.
oooh sry cant remember the specific season/episode, but it revolved around the dean and superintendent getting hooked on a experimental vr operating system iirc
I guess this one: Community S6E02 Lawnmower Maintenance And Postnatal Care. I probably mean the exact opposite lol.
https://scifiinterfaces.com/2023/12/18/community-lawnmower-maintenance/
Meta’s push towards virtual and augmented reality has clearly been a massive failure from the billions they invested into the “metaverse” only to come up with a shitty VRChat clone that lasted mere months. Meanwhile the only reason they’re really in the news lately is because they stole Google’s failed smart glasses concept, paired up with Ray-Ban and made the ultimate tool for creeps to record and harass women without their consent.
Valve are wise to poach their talent who have undoubtedly been throigh wave after wave of mass layoffs. The only other more significant hire they could have made other than Amanda would have been somehow bringing the fourth-dimensional being housed in a meatsuit known as John Carmack on board. But he’s busy with AGI.
Just imagine Carmack at Valve.
Immediate singularity
According to the article linked, she left Meta already in 2022 (anticipating the layoffs that followed soon after). Still a good talent for Valve to pick up now that they got into wireless VR with the Frame.
I can’t give you anything more than an upvote, so here’s a positive comment on your insightfulness/accuracy +1
why does this have so many upvotes? when did a bunch of neets turn this place into linkedin
edit: i just realised you’re all virgins and this is a girl getting a job so you think if you give updoots she’ll hold your hand
A mix between r/UpvotedBecauseOfGirl and r/UpvotedForRepresenationOfWomenExcellenceInSTEM
Says a lot about you that, of all of her achievements and qualifications, and the fact that she not just revolutionized but practically created the field of consumer-grade wireless VR… you get stuck on her being a woman.
God’s menagerie is vast, but the fences are low.
im not questioning the woman im questioning the number of upvotes for such a boring and meaningless post
Maybe thats fair but now you’re just being an insufferable jerk
that’s kind of my thing, I love bullying you nerds

Is “being constantly miserable online” how younglings define “bullying” these days? I apologize, I didn’t know. Could you at least call me fat or make fun of my name or interests? Then maybe I’d feel something other than slightly sorry for you. I don’t want to leave you hanging.
Then you should really try harder.
My high school bully had more bullying power in their left small toe.
I never considered it before, but do you think she might? Maybe pat me on the head and call me a good boy?
maybe in the metaverse
Wouldn’t it be great if turning that giant valve actually did something. Like…I dunno, someone in the next room shouts “turn that back on right now !”
there should be a so that says “Do not turn valve”
It’s great if you can work for a company that hires the actual smart people instead of management.
Cool!
Now get to work Amanda, the Internet demands more cool shit from Valve!
Even valve is poachin’ gee whilickers.
Good for her. Valve doesn’t run on the same talent recycling process you see in much of the industry. They’re small and retain talent.
I agree with the sentiment, and I’m sure Valve are one of the better companies to work for, so I’m happy for her…
But Valve aren’t small.
They ARE the PC gaming industry. They generate billions in revenue and control something like 75% of the global PC distribution market. I know they keep trying to sell themselves as just a small company, because they’re a small internal team, but I really wish they’d snap out of it and scale up a bit to match their market. Especially when talking about their hardware side. I live in New Zealand, and the number of conversations I’ve had with people who have gone to some pretty extreme lengths to get a hold of Valve hardware is ridiculous. I’m not even talking about the new stuff, I mean the damn Steam Deck. I find it incredibly frustrating to hear people refer to them as a small company. Jolla is a small company. Valve is not.
Anyway, sorry, /rant
Neither Jolla nor Valve are small companies, 200 and 350 (ish) employees respectively. But company size has nothing to do with revenue or profit, it’s literally just people on the payroll and a cutoff of your choosing.
I don’t think it’s really fare to compare the distribution capabilities of a hardware company vs a software/service company, though. And doesn’t this hiring kind of imply they’re expanding their hardware side?
From employee count they both would easily fit the legal US definition of a small business, as that’s usually 500 or fewer, but can be as high as 1500 in some industries, depends what they’d be classified as.
Some are just directly about revenue too, so you could in theory be too big to be a small business even if it’s just a single person - and by that standard, Valve is obviously not fit to be a small business.Whoa, I think in many other countries it’s small upto 50. 500 feels so high - the ceo wouldn’t even know everyone.
Small was in regards to the number of people they employ. Valve runs a lean ship of a few hundred.
Lemmy behavioral study, day #1105:
A person does not get crucified for having a blue checkmark if they are a girl engineer.Congratulations to her on getting the job












