Everyone commenting that they wont pay or its all a trap isnt thinking about the optics and expense. Im not SAYING that they are wrong, or that the whole initiative ISNT evil (it is) but paying Ice agents, vehicles, camps, etc. All costs money (more than you would think) and makes you look like assholes (which they are). People deciding to pack up and leave on their own, withdrawing their savings selling their vehicles and leaving willingly on a plane costs less than the whole track down, round up, detain and deporting process and is considerably less bad for the optics.
My grandparents fled germany in the 30s back when being Jewish was becoming dangerous but they were still content for you to just GTFO. I wouldnt be surprised if it was legit… Still fucking wrong tho.
It could be legit and a peaceful way to go but so far that’s not how this administration has operated. So it still could be legit but what a massive risk that is to take.
In that case, what’s ICE planning on using their new, bigger-than-most-militarys’ budget for? I’m not implying you’re wrong, because you do make some good points, but I want to remind everyone of the obscene amount of money they have.
If the per capita cost of deporting someone against their will is $10,000 and the cost of deporting someone consentually is $10,000 its still a win. Its just less work, every person who leaves voluntarily frees up the snatch teams to go after someone who doesnt.
We see authoritarian and inhumane measures to “solve”, often exacerbate, societal situations that could have been dealt with much more effectively for way less money.
Being cruel is a means to intimidate the broader population and the people behind it are willing to pay a big premium on it.
Everyone commenting that they wont pay or its all a trap isnt thinking about the optics and expense. Im not SAYING that they are wrong, or that the whole initiative ISNT evil (it is) but paying Ice agents, vehicles, camps, etc. All costs money (more than you would think) and makes you look like assholes (which they are). People deciding to pack up and leave on their own, withdrawing their savings selling their vehicles and leaving willingly on a plane costs less than the whole track down, round up, detain and deporting process and is considerably less bad for the optics.
My grandparents fled germany in the 30s back when being Jewish was becoming dangerous but they were still content for you to just GTFO. I wouldnt be surprised if it was legit… Still fucking wrong tho.
It could be legit and a peaceful way to go but so far that’s not how this administration has operated. So it still could be legit but what a massive risk that is to take.
In that case, what’s ICE planning on using their new, bigger-than-most-militarys’ budget for? I’m not implying you’re wrong, because you do make some good points, but I want to remind everyone of the obscene amount of money they have.
The vast majority who wont take them up on it.
If the per capita cost of deporting someone against their will is $10,000 and the cost of deporting someone consentually is $10,000 its still a win. Its just less work, every person who leaves voluntarily frees up the snatch teams to go after someone who doesnt.
Money really is not the issue here.
We see authoritarian and inhumane measures to “solve”, often exacerbate, societal situations that could have been dealt with much more effectively for way less money.
Being cruel is a means to intimidate the broader population and the people behind it are willing to pay a big premium on it.