Its the dumbest fucking advice I’ve found since everything is centralised and run from head offices but they dont seem to understand thats not a thing

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    Suits aren’t stupid! There’s casual suits, for one, and really there’s suits for basically every occasion… There’s so many different fits, different materials, different cuts…

    That’s just such a violent generalization, I simply can’t stand by and say nothing.

    Maybe the idea you have of a “suit”, in your mind, sucks balls, but suits certainly don’t suck balls.

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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      what even is a proper suit supposed to represent?

      like, i’ve grown up hating them as much as i hated everything else that was pushed onto me and i didn’t understand.

      i’ve never seen a single suit that looks good or made sense to me. what is the purpose in it?

      • gon [he]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 day ago

        At the end of the day, it’s fashion – you may just not like them. It’s OK not to like suits, I’m not trying to push anyone here to like suits, I’m just saying they’re not stupid.

        I mean, why wear chinos? Why wear blazers? It’s not like they’re “superior” garments or something, they just… Look nice! That’s it!

        Suits are about showing that you care about what you wear and how you present yourself, because it’s intentional – you’re wearing matching pants and blazer, maybe even a matching vest on top of that – and that says that you meant to wear that, and didn’t just happen to wear it because you liked those pants and you liked that shirt. A suit is an outfit that looks like it’s meant to be worn as a single item: a suit. Not pants and a blazer; A suit!

        That’s what makes it “special”, but it’s really just clothes.

        Maybe when you think of “suit” you think of something like this:

        Horrendous skinny suit

        But this is also a suit:

        Nice relaxed suit

        Do they look the same to you? Is it the same vibe? Do you think they fit the same and are equally as comfortable?!

        HELL NO!! I wouldn’t want to wear that first skinny ass suit a single day in my life, but I think the second more relaxed suit looks very comfortable and reasonable, and something I could wear around without a problem.

        Even if you still think both suits look bad, I hope this at least sheds some light on how not all suits are the same. What they do have in common is a cohesion that says that you meant to wear An OutfitTM, as opposed to putting on some pants and a jacket. Well, and they’re a little more formal than a t-shirt and jeans, too.

        Something that I think might’ve also been a problem for you when suits were pushed on you was that maybe you weren’t wearing very good materials or very well-made stuff. I don’t mean to say that I know your upbringing, but odds are you were forced to wear poorly-made polyester clothes that draped weird, didn’t breathe well, and felt weird on the skin – that’s not exactly a good way to get a kid (or anyone, frankly…) to enjoy wearing anything.

        I, at least, for the longest time, hated wearing collared shirts! Why? Not sure, but I assume a reason for that was that I was forced to wear them to church growing up and I hated both church and being forced to wear anything! Also, I was wearing shitty shirts that felt horrible to wear, regardless of occasion. Maybe you went through something similar.

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          19 hours ago

          and that says that you meant to wear that, and didn’t just happen to wear it because you liked those pants and you liked that shirt.

          I like that though because what you like says a lot about a person. I love self-expressive people, not people who just do whatever they need to fit in. I also hate formal occasions because again formal means there’s lots of rules on how to look and act. Again pressure to fit in. As a progressive I don’t align with that. I like people being very diverse. If I’m invited to a formal event (or even a trade show with a dress code) I just decline.

          A suit is like the uniform of the business world. Very boring and non-expressive.

          PS I also hate collared shirts and ties, I don’t wear them anymore. They bother my neck.

        • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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          24 hours ago

          ok, these two images explain a lot, thanks :D

          yeah, the second one looks waay more comfy than the first one to me. and also i get your intention of wearing a complete, matching suit, like, stuff matches together. that’s better than just wearing random individual unmatching items.

          the way i do it is to select all my clothing that i have/own depending on color schemes. almost all my clothing is green/brown/red, (the brown being similar to the second picture) so it all automatically matches because it all has a certain vibe to it.

          • gon [he]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            11 hours ago

            :D

            so it all automatically matches because it all has a certain vibe to it.

            Yeah that’s a similar concept! Suits are also about fabric and fit, but you’re basically halfway there already, quite frankly.