• psx_crab@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    9 months ago

    backlash from unpaid moderator

    They have their chance two years ago but they didn’t stand up, they fold once the admin bark just a bit. They openly stated that their obligation are to the user of the sub, so they should continue to serve quietly. If they still continue to use reddit after all this year seeing spez being paid millions while they work and generate content and effort for the company, then i have no sympathy.

  • galoisghost@aussie.zoneEnglish
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    9 months ago

    I have sympathy for the moderators but not a lot. The should have unionised and demanded a salary a long time ago.

    • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialEnglish
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      9 months ago

      The should have unionised and demanded a salary a long time ago.

      Yeah, mods who tried to do that kind of thing were simply replaced as I recall it, and their subs transferred to new mods. Reddit is pretty much down the capitalist hellhole at this point.

    • galoisghost@aussie.zoneEnglish
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      9 months ago

      And I’ll add Lemmy/Piefed, actually the whole fediverse, should be run by co-operatives. I’m on Aussie.zone for nothing I add nothing to the instance I’m just a drain on resources. I should pay a yearly fee to be part of the community and should at the very least meta moderate. Like slashdot Uwe to do whereafter a period of time you got to review moderator choices and agree or disagree with the decision. Which based on criteria would the. Allow you to first person moderate.

      In short:

      • contribute to costs.
      • moderate the moderators
      • moderate
      • MoonRaven@feddit.nlEnglish
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        9 months ago

        There’s a reason I donate to my instance. It’s not a lot, but it’s something that helps.

      • jol@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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        9 months ago

        On one hand, yes. On the other hand, the moment paying for Lemmy becomes commonplace, is the moment financial interests would ruin everything. A donation model makes more sense.

          • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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            9 months ago

            You’d like lemmy.dbzer0.com (lemmy) or anarchist.nexus (piefed) then. Run by the same folks.

            Not a co-op, but they’ve put in place systems for instance users to democratically vote on all big administrative changes, any user can start a “radical” vote to oust any mod or admin, and people who have donated to the running costs (even just once) get more vote. Enough that people invested get more weight, but they wouldn’t be able to completely override the will of the rest of the userbase.

            Politically anarchist, pro-piracy (head admin and creator is former head mod of reddit’s r/piracy), accepting of AI (mostly pushing for local models, so corps aren’t the only ones with power) but don’t really have issues with anti-corp-AI views as long as you aren’t being a dick to the pro-AI comms/users.

      • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        9 months ago

        Im personally a server admin on db0 and tbh I just sorta do it in my free time, I don’t personally think it needs to be monitized. Some funding for server costs is fine but that’s about it.

        • lumpenproletariat@quokk.auEnglish
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          9 months ago

          No they’re not, they’re a form of personal opinion.

          Reporting a post or comment however does help us a lot because we don’t see everything.

      • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialEnglish
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        9 months ago

        *phew* Well, good thing I don’t need your sympathy. :D

        Fact is, Reddit is still a hugely-useful place for me, so I have one foot still wedging that door open.

  • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    9 months ago

    The date on this article is March 19, 2024. I don’t mind, really every day Spez is discomfited is a good day, just something to be aware of. I thought it was odd when they were mentioning the IPO filing as being the source of the information, and that’s when I looked for the date.

    • Janx@piefed.socialEnglish
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      9 months ago

      Spez sucks, but is there any proof of that? My understanding is that back then you could make anyone a moderator against their will, which someone did with r/Jailbait… 🤢

      • edible_funk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        9 months ago

        That was after he gave the head mod of the sub an award for the traffic it was bringing the site. Steve Huffman was explicitly aware of the jailbait sub before and after being made a moderator of it. He is best case scenario a pedophile sympathizer.

      • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        9 months ago

        I don’t know if he is personally. I do know they were handing out physical trophies to people who made communities that made them money, including people posting underage girls.

        Oh, and also I got banned for saying we need harsher penalties for people who harm children. Probably bot flagged, but upheld in a review.

        He may not be one, but Reddit generally stands with pedophiles, and opposes people who stand against them. And historically have done.

      • underisk@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        9 months ago

        He owned the website. He controlled it completely. He wasn’t powerless to stop them from making him a mod (which he remained for a long time, even when people pointed it out publicly) and he wasn’t powerless to remove the literal child porn subreddit before it became a national news story.

    • jago@lemmy.caEnglish
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      9 months ago

      You don’t even try, do you?
      Have a block, you insufferable trog.

    • texture@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      9 months ago

      to be fair, theres still a lot of really good info on there, by the matter of sheer volume alone. i learned a lot about linux for instance, from reddit the last couple years. Sadly lemmy doesnt yet have the volume that would have been able to foster the same amount of learning for me. heres to hoping lemmy grows faster by the day :)

      • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        9 months ago

        My big problem is that Lemmy lacks sizable niche communities right now. The big topics get foot traffic, but the small stuff struggles.

      • madcaesar@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        9 months ago

        I know people hate ai, but honestly Linux questions especially the low hanging fruit is perfectly answered by chat gtp etc.

        Part of the reason I switched was exactly because I didn’t have to google 10 different forums and could just ask for the answers. And you can keep asking clarifying questions to get more detail.

        • Axiochus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          9 months ago

          A vocal minority in a specific set of bubbles hates AI. Large numbers of people just quietly use it.

          • AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            9 months ago

            …yes, large numbers of the dumbest people on the planet, combined with the ACTUALLY vocal minority of pro-AI self-hosters who get butthurt when you call AI problematic.

            The population is widely, increasingly, becoming fed up with AI. I work in the actual world, and I speak with dozens of different people every day. Resoundingly sentiment is either unaware of AI or despises it.

            • texture@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              9 months ago

              no offense, but “i work in the actual world” comes off rudely dismissive, and possibly a bit narrow minded. like, how did saying that help support your argument at all, and why assume others dont exist irl?

              • AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                9 months ago

                Because if someone doesn’t preface with the fact that they are referring to real, lived experiences and not twitter screenshots, then they are dismissed as being chronically online.

                The stuff you said? That’s how you read it and perceived it, but it’s not what is said. And it’s not my job when arguing with people about dumb internet shit to figure out and account for how an offhand refutal comment will come off.

                I also don’t care if I’m being rude or snide. If you feel belittled, then you are insecure. I’m just a random douchebag on lemmy whose direct opinion of you, you shouldn’t care about. So if you feel belittled, it’s your own fault. Block and move on.

            • Axiochus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              9 months ago

              Sure thing. ChatGPT is the top app on both iOS and Android for no reason. I’m sure people are just about to realise that LLMs only hallucinate and give you what you want to hear, and the world will be back to how it was.

              • AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                9 months ago

                Did you miss the “large numbers of the dumbest people on the planet” bit or are you just unable to actually parse what I’m saying and write a valid response? Are you using AI to write your dumbassery?

      • man_wtfhappenedtoyou@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        9 months ago

        I have found on Lemmy that you simply need to ask the questions to get the answers you want. While the user count may not be as high as on reddit, people here are way more active, and most of the commenters I’ve seen (especially in the tech communities) seem wicked smart and know what they are talking about.

        We don’t have the massive backlog of posts with the same questions asked over and over again on every topic, but that doesn’t mean the knowledge isn’t here. Engage, make posts, ask questions! We’ll get there.