• melfie@lemy.lol
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    28 days ago

    While Sodium-Ion sounds legitimately promising, we’ve all read so many articles about “revolutionary new battery tech” over the years that the default response is “cool, let me know when mass production starts.”

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      28 days ago

      “cool, let me know when mass production starts.”

      (“to the best of my knowledge, that is now, immediately.”)

      HiNa opened a 1 GWh sodium-ion battery factory in December 2022. Since then, both BYD and CATL have opened huge sodium-ion battery factories.

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      28 days ago

      The article literally starts off with a mass produced $800 Sodium Ion battery that you can buy right now.

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          28 days ago

          It being an ad doesn’t change anything in an of itself. They’re correct in saying that there is a mass-produced, consumer grade product available. Unless that is a lie, or said product is complete trash, this solves the “call me it’s mass-produced” problem the original commentor has.

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      27 days ago

      Fewer things irritate me more than someone who just hops straight into the comments without actually reading the article first.

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        27 days ago

        Yeah, your ire is justified. Total ADD move to start reading, have a thought pop in your head, then post without at least scanning the rest of the article to make sure you’re not posting something stupid.

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      28 days ago

      The sub is about technology, not industry. Also, look at the advances in battery technology in the last 30 years. There have only been 3 notable technology advances in the last 40 years from a consumer perspective, but there have been significant advances within each of those major technology changes, resulting in Wh/kg increasing by 6 to 10 times and $/Wh dropping about 99%.

      If you want to hear about things that could happen or are about to start happening in industry, this is the right community. If you want to know what you can buy tomorrow, try Amazon.

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        28 days ago

        resulting in Wh/kg increasing by 6 to 10 times and $/Wh dropping about 99%.

        And yet, a Tesla model S costs $10,000 more than 2012.

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          28 days ago

          Tesla, the company run by a nazi capitalist and which has a value so inflated it’s amazing it hasn’t imploded under its own weight, raises it’s prices and you’re blaming batteries? You do know that every saving a corporation makes goes towards profits and that they never lower their prices as long as people are buying(and even then, they refuse to most of the time)?

          There’s correlation not equalling causation and then there’s whatever the hell this is. Like one of the final bosses of that logical fallacy.

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            27 days ago

            It’s not just Musk. All the legacy automakers switched fast to EVs because of the higher profit margins, and have been obfuscating the fact that at recent battery prices, EVs should cost less than ICE. To try and add value, they festoon the vehicles with pointless gadgetry and screens, which of course will all fail long before the battery. By Design.