Every time I hear someone say ‘eh’ in a questioning tone or to mean ‘um actually’ I lose my shit. Or even just to play something down.
Like I literally come to hate the person instantly. Its a very strong feeling on a very small sound.
Instant downvotes if I see it on Lemmy too. HATE IT.
How about all y’all?
“Boys will be boys.”
Fuck you Tom! That’s how you react to your brat violating the bodily autonomy of another human beeing!? Hearing you say that means he feels it’s normal, he’s got permission and that it’s good masculine behavior. You’re teaching your son to be an asshole instead of a functioning human being. Boys will behave better if we teach them to, so you better pick up the slack and join the rest of us in raising your fucking child!
Instead of “et cetera”, the speaker says something akin to “dut da da”. Drives me crazy!
“I call it as I see it.”
“I’m just very straightforward and honest.”
No, you’re a prick. That’s what you are.
Yeah, being truthful is generally good but that’s independent of being an ass about it.
People who champion “brutal honesty” generally seem much more excited about the brutality than the honesty.
“Most people think ___.” No, unless you’re citing a statistic or roughly quantifying how many anecdotes you’ve heard agreeing with you to support that statement (both of which rarely happen), that’s just your opinion wrapped up in language to avoid actually justifying it.
Additionally, even if most people think something, I don’t care what most people think. In my experience what most people think vs what the best thing to think is are often not aligned.
When talking politics:
“It’s plain as day” “Common sense” “I don’t know about that” “We all know” “It’s just natural” “Normal” “Everybody (verbs) (x)”
Like that kind of stuff irks me in normal conversations but when we are talking about something that is part of common debate, obviously it’s fucking not already known “common sense”, and dismissing evidence that clearly contradicted it by saying “I don’t about that” or similar just sends me.
It’s a problem with trolls, strangers, and even loved ones for me. It’s just wild
Any turn of phrase which is stated incorrectly. Eg.
- case and point
- doggie dog world
- at your beckon call
- they’re on tender hooks
- should tie you over
- it’s a mute point
I know what all of these are supposed to be except the tender hooks one. I’ve said it aloud and it’s driving me crazy because I can NOT figure it out.
Is it a regional one maybe? I’m from the US so maybe it’s one from elsewhere in the world? I bet I’m going to feel like a real dumb dumb when I figure out the answer and it’s hella obvious lmao.
Edit: Googled it and figured out that it’s actually “tenterhooks” and just basically means that someone is uneasy. I’ve never heard that phrase in my life. Kinda dope that I learned a new phrase today!
Most forms of slang have a bit of that experience for me. The whole point of language is an attempt to make it possible to transfer information from one person to another. If someone is going to intentionally obscure what they are saying, they’re just being an asshole, making other people do mental work, either so they don’t have to (‘So I was, like, mluh’ instead of ‘I felt angry for being mistreated.’) or just to assert dominance. (using heavily obscurant slang their friend group came up with outside of the group, ‘totes mcgrotes crackin’ being used to mean ‘very horny’)
Sometimes we disagree on what the required amount of information that is needed for a sentence.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_principle
And sometimes we’re playing the wrong “game”
Those are essentially what I am talking about. The speaker should want to be understood, and should make it as easy as possible for the other person to understand them. By choosing to ‘play a different game’ they are going against the cooperative principle, seeking to benefit themselves at the cost of others. The cost may be fairly trivial, like cutting in line costing the person behind only a minute or two, but it absolutely suggests the person doing it is selfish.
“Have you ever sown a field, Lady Olenna? Have you ever reaped a grain? Has anyone in House Tyrell? A lifetime of wealth and power has left you blind in one eye. You are the few, we are the many. And when the many stop fearing the few…”
From your point of view. Your point of view may be the objectively correct one, and I would love if just saying “no more crazy people” meant no more fighting with people who have way too much confidence and zero rationality, but they still might have their own points of view.
And I for one can’t say which is the objectively right one.
For instance I find that my personal preference to abiding Grice’s maxims would be way too detail-oriented, and people usually feel as though I’ve broken the maxim of quantity and quality by “over-serving them” whereas I feel they’re not nearly accurate enough. Or they’re too accurate about something way too irrelevant and I’m very confident in the matter and thus find the quantity of their explanation superfluous.
It’s so much about context and less about what is “objectively right.”
I used to drive a taxi and would have no problem letting other people “set the rules” as it were (people really enjoyed me as a customer service agent in all different jobs I was in, and I’m not just saying that even though ofc everyone would think so becuase I’m saying it myself), but yet I don’t have lots of close personal friends, because I get to actually talk about what’s interesting to me and not just yap about some irrelevant bullshit, people have a different preference to how much they like talking and thinking about things. Mines “more than theirs”. I can accommodate their rules, but they clearly can’t accommodate mine. So it would only make sense for me, the more adaptable one, to adapt, as they’re clearly incapable. Unless I want to be alone.
Would you disagree?
I would agree in some senses, but not others. I maintain that it is good to be precise, and that most people can be taught to be precise, given time and encouragement, and it is only a society that demands everything happen ‘efficiently’ that turns time into a scarcity such that people feel they have to find something ill-considered to say immediately rather than think for a time and find the better way to express what they mean. There are those with a mental handicap, and I wouldn’t expect the same from them that I would from someone less limited, but I will always lose esteem for those who choose speed over truth when the circumstances permit the time, or choose precision incorrectness in the service of themselves at my expense.
I make no claim of objective moral value, but rather the practical value. If one speaks, it is for a purpose. Speaking with the intention of being understood is the most common and speaking with precision serves that purpose. Speaking with the intention of obscuring is generally regarded as a form of lying, and lying can be regarded as a form of violation, akin to dosing someone with a hallucinogen, distorting their perception of reality. Such violations can serve a purpose, but they remain violations, and are generally not to the benefit of the listener. The general regard for someone who harms others for their own benefit, once the harm is recognized, is negative.
If we want to stand back from the structures of social norms, personal interactions, epistemic/ontological stakes, etc. none of it matters, but we don’t get to live in that conceptual space, only visit.
“It is what it is” when describing a bad situation.
No, that’s defeatist as hell, it will be whatever it will be when I’ve given it everything I can to make it better.There’s a reason you dislike it so, I wager
It’s not that deep." – dismisses attempts to expose faulty logic by asserting that logic is not necessary in this particular case.[8]
“Lies of the Devil.” – used as a response to any fact that threatens the integrity of an individual or group.[9] “Stop thinking too much.” – redirects attention from the topic, idea, or argument at hand to the alleged overuse of thought itself.[10]
“You clearly care way too much about this topic.” – implies that one’s level of concern or interest in a particular topic or situation is excessive and thus invalidates any further conversation or exploration[2]
“There are worse things in life to worry about.” – implies that less significant issues are not worth addressing since they are not as significant as other issues and implies that a person’s situation is not significant enough to even warrant discussion or action[11]
“It’s all good.” – nullifies, without evidence, any possible debate by asserting the issue is already settled.[12][user-generated source?]
“Here we go again.” – implies that the redundant, cyclical nature of a given disagreement means it will never be resolved.[13]
“So what? What effect does my action have?” – used to dismiss an individual’s involvement in a larger cause on the grounds that one person is too insignificant to ever have a meaningful impact.[2]
“Let’s agree to disagree.” – used to stop discussion of an issue rather than attempt to resolve it;[14] may, however, instantiate a dialectic.
“It is what it is.” – implies that things are unchangeable, therefore there is no point in further discussion.[15]
“Let people enjoy things.” – purports that criticisms to consumable media are attempts to prevent consumers from enjoying said media.[
I’ve read that one differently all this time. I thought It is what it is when it’s handed to me a mess. I can’t change what made it a mess. I can only clean it up. Coming to terms with the fact none of us can change the past and finding blame is pointless if i still have to clean it up.
EG: when faced with cleaning up a hoarders house. We might not have caused it but it still needs to be cleaned up. That’s when it is what it is so we don’t keep blaming what is usually the dead person found in it who can’t do anything about it anyways.
“No offence, but …” followed by an insult.
Or starting off with an insult, then ending it with “Just saying …”
As if these phrases nullify being a dick. If you’re going to be an asshole, own it. Don’t make excuses up.
That is the most Ricky Bobby thing ever, but sadly its also a very southern thing
Ricky Bobby
Sadly we get this phrase in ireland too. Especially from a certain class of society
Shake and bake?
“Ding ding ding!”
I think it’s condescending as fuck.
Bless your heart dear
Also can be condescending as fuck if you know what it really means
Yeah that’s a well known southern insult. It’s really not that subtle, but then again, god didn’t intend for everyone to be as smart as you.
Lol, I’m glad that a person of your intellect did not need further explanation
“It is what it is.”
If you don’t have anything valuable to add, say nothing. Like, silence is okay.
That phrase has always had a Buddhist-type quality of acceptance for me, even before I knew what Buddhism was. But I think it is favored by people who fail to recognize the difference between “seeing reality as it is” and “believing that reality can’t be challenged or changed”.
Since you asked, “Touch grass” bothers me.
Ive noticed that so many people are bothered by minor things in life.
That being said, I hate the “lets circle back to that”. :)
So it bothers you when people vocalize their question marks, eh?
Its much worse at the start of a sentence.
Eh, to each their own.
I see what you did there, eh
“Have your cake and eat it too”
Motherfucker, you have it backwards because you’re too smoothbrained to understand what a fucking paradox is.
The original, correct version is “to eat your cake and have too”.
The idea is that you want to eat a cake, but still have the cake afterwards. This is a paradox because you can’t be in posession of a particular cake after you already ate the damn thing.
The original is just fine. If you eat your cake you won’t have it anymore. You can’t have both be true at the same time. Switching them over would be clearer but it doesn’t mean the first one is wrong.
The original is just fine.
You missed part of my comment. What you’re referring to as the “original” version is not the original version
Well let’s call it the current version. Point is the same.
