President Joe Bidenā€™s dismal showing at the CNN presidential debate against former President Donald Trump resonated around the world, with foreign diplomats expressing shock and concern while raising questions about theĀ implications forĀ a consequentialĀ US electionĀ that could upend the foreign policy status-quo should Trump be reelected.

President Joe Bidenā€™s dismal showing at the CNN presidential debate against former President Donald Trump resonated around the world, with foreign diplomats expressing shock and concern while raising questions about theĀ implications forĀ a consequentialĀ US electionĀ that could upend the foreign policy status-quo should Trump be reelected.

    • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
      151Ā·
      6 months ago

      I am buoyed by the unanimity of the downvotes

      I actually think itā€™s 100% true that Biden did a shitty job at the debate, exposing in painfully vivid fashion some flaws we already knew he had. On the other hand, so did Trump. And itā€™s weird that one side of that equation is getting such a shriekingly loud level of coverage and the other side is getting more or less nothing.

      The couple of polls on 538 since the debate apparently show not much change in peopleā€™s sentiment (certainly not any kind of catastrophe that the news is trying to create with its self fulfilling prophecy coverage).

      Keep posting the bullshit guys. I wonā€™t say it wonā€™t work, but at least from what Iā€™ve seen people are mostly downvoting it when it is getting posted here.

      • dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
        132Ā·
        6 months ago

        And itā€™s weird that one side of that equation is getting such a shriekingly loud level of coverage and the other side is getting more or less nothing.

        Itā€™s because Trumpā€™s performance was exactly the same as prior years. He was a lying piece of shit then, he is a lying piece of shit now. Biden has run for President for 30+ years, and is visibly diminished vs even 4 years ago.

        • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
          71Ā·
          6 months ago

          Yeah. And Biden looked weak, which is like the killer flaw in all of American politics from which there is no recovery. From Reagan to Clinton to Trump, the US electorate has been full throatedly behind ā€œyou can take away all my rights and ruin my economy and collaborate with my enemies all you want, as long as you look charming while you do it bbyā€ like a domestic abusee who doesnā€™t want to call the cops. But they will never forgive a politician for looking like a chump (in a way that they readily will for committing random felonies or attempted murders or massive corruption or treason.)

        • Skeezix@lemmy.world
          17Ā·
          6 months ago

          But he did one thing that no other debate contender ever has done. While his mouth was agape staring vacantly off into space, he actually pooped his pants right there on stage.

  • āœŗroguetrickāœŗ@lemmy.world
    3Ā·
    6 months ago

    From https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/06/29/european-allies-democrats-replace-biden-stop-trump

    The Telegraph has also spoken to Tory cabinet ministers who have similar concernsā€.

    One Cabinet minister told The Telegraph: ā€œIt is pretty fā€”---- scary that those are the best two [candidates] the worldā€™s most powerful nation with a population of 350 million can come up with.ā€

    These are the geniuses that put forward Truss and Johnson.