I think it’s fairly simple. They push the chips way too hard at factory settings (whether set by the motherboard manufacturer, or even Intel’s 253 watts (?) PL1 and PL2 is completely crazy) and these high limits were clearly what they wanted reviewers to benchmark these chips on.
At these levels of power most chips degrade very quickly (in a matter of weeks or a few months) and so they eventually start producing errors.
It’s horrible that Intel is waiting so long when they should cut their losses, recall and refund all 1(3/4)000K(F/S) CPUs and either release a fixed version under a new name that reviewers can re-benchmark or stop selling these SKUs altogether.
I highly, highly doubt they’ll find a cheap fix that doesn’t significantly degrade performance.
I’m sure what Intel are doing right now is having both their tech people and their lawyers frantically explore any and every option which might let them get out of this.
Which is why there is radio silence, because they don’t want to make any statement which admits liability, or even acknowledges the problem.
But yes, if the problem is real they had better suck it up and recall the whole lot.
If you watch the video from level1techs and the follow up from gamersnexus, you can hear them talk about how this is not something microcode can fix, its not only a power issue, its a design issue. With all of the out of video mem and compression bugs I would look into the memory controller. This also seems to be a smaller fix into itself, they show that some were able to get their machines up and running again once they shot the memory down to the lowest clock (4800 MT I think it was) that the DDR5 could do, and this seems to still be a bandaid and the systems will just outright die soon after, but you might be able to get in your order for RMA before it does.
I think it’s fairly simple. They push the chips way too hard at factory settings (whether set by the motherboard manufacturer, or even Intel’s 253 watts (?) PL1 and PL2 is completely crazy) and these high limits were clearly what they wanted reviewers to benchmark these chips on.
At these levels of power most chips degrade very quickly (in a matter of weeks or a few months) and so they eventually start producing errors.
It’s horrible that Intel is waiting so long when they should cut their losses, recall and refund all 1(3/4)000K(F/S) CPUs and either release a fixed version under a new name that reviewers can re-benchmark or stop selling these SKUs altogether.
I highly, highly doubt they’ll find a cheap fix that doesn’t significantly degrade performance.
I’m sure what Intel are doing right now is having both their tech people and their lawyers frantically explore any and every option which might let them get out of this.
Which is why there is radio silence, because they don’t want to make any statement which admits liability, or even acknowledges the problem.
But yes, if the problem is real they had better suck it up and recall the whole lot.
And, of course, that 253w PL1/2 limit is a lie: these chips will absolutely pull north of 400w (450w for the 14900k!) if you let them.
That’s a whole-ass computer from not that many years ago, and it’s not entirely surprising they’re having issues.
If you watch the video from level1techs and the follow up from gamersnexus, you can hear them talk about how this is not something microcode can fix, its not only a power issue, its a design issue. With all of the out of video mem and compression bugs I would look into the memory controller. This also seems to be a smaller fix into itself, they show that some were able to get their machines up and running again once they shot the memory down to the lowest clock (4800 MT I think it was) that the DDR5 could do, and this seems to still be a bandaid and the systems will just outright die soon after, but you might be able to get in your order for RMA before it does.