• Urist@lemmy.mlEnglish
      81·
      5 months ago

      woke ideology

      Like basic respect for others?

      not allowed to say anything

      Yeah, this is just not true. Unlike those who are actually marginalized, these people say nasty shit and claim that being called a dickhead for it is a violation of their freedom of speech. The reality is that they actually want some sort of immunity to backlash for their own words and actions, effectively limiting other people’s freedom of expression.

        • Urist@lemmy.mlEnglish
          61·
          5 months ago

          You misunderstand what I am saying: They are mostly (save where hate speech laws apply) allowed to say nasty stuff. They just do not enjoy the privilege of everyone else shutting up about it. I.e., other people react to it and say unkind, possibly nasty stuff back, which the original people in question get butt hurt by and subsequently whine about “the woke mob cancelling them”.

            • Urist@lemmy.mlEnglish
              61·
              5 months ago

              The woke mob wants me to affirm that a transsexual woman is, in fact, a real woman. I will not say that. I would be a lying. I tend to pursue truth. Truth does not care about people’s feelings.

              Ok. Seems to me that you just want a free pass at being an ass.

              She is a real woman even though she does not conform to your expectations of what gender is. Here is the thing though: She does not need your affirmation to

              1. be real
              2. look like a woman
              3. live like a woman
              4. feel like a woman.

              What reason do you have to claim that she is not a “real woman” (whatever that means, I can guarantee that it is not well defined)? Most importantly, if she feels like a woman, even if you disagree on some metaphysical level of nonsense of what is a woman, why would you have the need to tell her what you think? Lastly, why do you think your opinion about her body is important?

                • Mia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                  61·
                  5 months ago

                  Look up intersex people and marvel at how loose the definition of being female is. People are born without a womb, mixed genitalia, any combination you can imagine. They’re still considered women. If one can get to such a state, or further, they should too.

                  Look up the various studies performed on transgender patients showing how their brain is more aligned to that of females (or males, whichever way they swing), at a biological level.

                  Look up how hormonal imbalances during pregnancy can cause such discrepancies. It’s not just a psychological thing, it’s a biological phenomenon that does appear in nature.

                  Or don’t. You’re free to remain ignorant, just like you’re free to say whatever you like, but don’t act like the victim when you knowingly say something that’s considered out of line and face consequences.

                  Facing consequences for your actions is nothing new, don’t act like it is. Work places and public spaces have had rules of conduct since the dawn of time; what is considered acceptable has shifted as society evolved. You may not like it, but that’s not going to change just because calling someone by their chosen name makes you uncomfortable. Would you consider being disallowed to call black people slurs totalitarianism?

                  You are free to say whatever you want, just like people and employers are free to not want to associate with you for the things you say.

                • Urist@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  51·
                  5 months ago

                  Transsexual “women” fail to meet one basic requirement to be considered women: they are not female.

                  Ok.

                  When the left stretches things up to the point you can face legal consequences for truthful speech, we digress into totalitarianism.

                  This is not at all what totalitarianism means, look it up in a dictionary or something.