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    It got so bad he was fired from the Witcher AND the DCU movies.

    Not sure what happened there but this is plain false… he left the witcher after at least 2 years of complaining the writers were throwing away the source material (the reason he signed on for) to actually go to back to DC since they expected the Black Adam movie to reboot the DCU. When Black Adam bombed spectacularly, any future DCU plans got tossed.

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      The show was a different story from the books and game, what source material were they supposed to follow? Tell the same story again? That was not what they proposed or were greenlit for? And he signed on for THAT, not whatever he claimed after, since that’s not what they were doing. So if he thought they were doing an exact reenactment of the books or games, maybe he should read his contracts or the proposal for the shows? This is twice now he’s done this.

      He was canned from two different places for refusing to understand they are telling different stories that can’t be identical to the source material. How else do you deal with someone like that? Especially when he started dragging fans into harassing the show runners.

      People defend him, since they don’t understand what was going on, but he’s louder and more famous, so he gets his way, until he doesn’t. Maybe the fact his has happened more than once should give people pause…?

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        The show was a different story from the books and game, what source material were they supposed to follow?

        You said it yourself, the story from the books and game

        Tell the same story again?

        This is called an adapted script

        That was not what they proposed or were greenlit for? And he signed on for THAT

        Please provide source for either of these claims. Contracts are often signed when there isn’t even a complete team, let along an adapted script ready

        How else do you deal with someone like that? Especially when he started dragging fans into harassing the show runners.

        Yeah, what a monster, trying to give fans what they want to watch instead of the majestic crap they produced which was universally hated by those who knew the franchise from before

        And by the way, I’m not aware of what other instance you talk about

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          They did, they used the skeleton to tell a different story, but cavil didn’t like it wasn’t a 1:1 retelling, yet no one wants to discuss how the games weren’t either. Yet he was arguing for content from both…? How does that make sense. He says follow the source content, than points at both? Make that make sense, if you’ve actually read the books and played the game and know they aren’t remotely the same thing.

          Dude didn’t even know what friggen lore he wanted himself, and was forcing the showrunners to do a story they never intended.

          Maybe read some article about this, this isn’t new information, but sure, claim ignorance I guess. He was fired from DC for more or less the same arguments about source material, while they were telling their own story.

          You seem to know what an “adapted script” is, and you understand the showtellers were doing that… but Cavill fighting for source material confuses you? What…? Lmfao you can’t have both… fucking he’ll. He wanted a retelling, the show runners didn’t, how is this so hard to comprehend, when you seem to udnerstand most of this?

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            Still waiting on all those sources that put you in the high horse of knowledge that is The Witcher tv series

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              The fact that season 1 has nothing to do with the books, if you’ve read them… should be the biggest enough hint. But it’s painfully obvious you haven’t and are just perpetuating the same shit Cavill did. Find your own thing yikes.

              But how many Articles do you want

              Another

              Maybe why don’t you explain what’s the same between them? Because most people agree, they aren’t the same story, and if it was… do you think cavil would be fighting for it to be the same…? Your argument doesn’t even work lmfao. You also made the original claim, so the onus is on you, but I am going to do better than I know you will and I provided some sources, can you…?

              If it followed script like your claiming… what would cavils complaint be…?

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                I know the source material is different than the garbage show.

                What you need to prove is that Cavil knew this going in and then changed his mind. This is your entire premise to show Cavil is in the wrong here

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                  The first article I linked explained it pretty good, but apparently you couldn’t be assed to read it, but that’s about par for the course when anyone tries discussing this. Cavill can’t be wrong, yet he literally said he was, but he still asininely pushed for “source material”, which was both books and video game.

                  “And for me, that’s always a little bit heartbreaking, because I love the lore, and I love the material so much. I wish we could fit it all in, but with the structure of an eight-hour series, you can’t.”

                  Of course he knew the limitations of the media, he would be daft not to, and you’re even worse for not comprehending this, doubly so when asked for a source and provided it, you still beak off.

                  This is common knowledge at this point, I’m sorry your head is buried in the sand, or your precious actor is actually not in the right. Shit happens dude lmfao, but maybe stop blindly defending someone, especially a repeat offender.

                  The onus would actually be on you, you made a claim first, so let’s your sources that he didn’t know it wasn’t a 1:1, I provided the information you requested, and even a quote from him saying he knew the limitations. Thats should exceed your requirements, so can we have some reciprocation? Or did I hit the nail on the head already? I went above and beyond, you made the original claim, you can atleast have the decency now to back it up.

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            Maybe read some article about this, this isn’t new information, but sure, claim ignorance I guess.

            Makes claims, provides ZERO fucking links or sources, issues homework instead.

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              I provided sources, even though I really didn’t have to.

              They made claims first, so the onus is on them, I did them a solid and provided sources, that even contradict their claims, and they provided nothing. And have now called me a child for doing what they wanted, yeah… I’m in the wrong here….

              But sure, beak off at ME I guess? lol.

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        Huh? I only watched until season 2 but so far the story was from the books. Just skipping some stuff and remixing it badly.

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          Uhh what? The skeleton is the same, but it’s an entirely different story, nothings the same, which is what upset cavil since he wanted a retelling of the books.

          What in specific can you pinpoint that’s the same between the show and books? It only started to somewhat resemble the books in further seasons because of the shit Cavill pulled.

          Why the obvious lie?