• Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Must not have a very good grasp of your opinions if you can’t talk about the opposition without threats of violence. Or you’re not playing in good faith and just trying to rile up people by pointing out the warmongering nature of the US instead of having a real point.

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      I talk about Democrats all the time without threats of violence, what are you talking about?

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        What do you mean? I just don’t comment on Republicans because threats of violence get removed

        Must not have a very good grasp of your opinions if you can’t talk about the opposition without threats of violence.

        I talk about Democrats all the time without threats of violence, what are you talking about?

        I love it when people accidentally tell on themselves.

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            2 months ago

            An anarchist who can only talk intelligently against Democrats and only speaks in ‘threats of violence’ to republicans, meaning you can’t talk about them and only attack democrats and sees the Democrats as opposition and not republicans.

            Seems legit.

            Edit: just saw you’re on .ml, so yeah, you’re ‘an anarchist’ and hate democrats, no wonder you can’t speak against republicans LOL.

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              Like what do you want me to say about republicans? they’re pretty much always car brained, incapable of having a nuanced understanding of the world around them, misogynist, transphobic, jingoistic.

              Many of these can also be said of some Democrats, but it’s far more the rule for republicans.

              I get annoyed at democrats for their failure, because they pretend to be better.

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                lol how old are you? I’m going to guess like 19? have you had any Democrat president besides Obama or Joe?

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                  Why is it always about age with you guys? part of the reason I’m like this is because I’ve seen so many disappointing democrats in my life, starting with Clinton. If anything I was more of a liberal as a kid and grew out of it once I learned how the world worked.

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                So we have people that are complacent in their beliefs and are inundated with hate from their media feeds. People of the past arent equipped for the disinformation age; its not that surprising. What stands out to me is that the hateful narrative exists, and is so successful at dividing people.

                So what do we do? Is there any particular gain by seething over a general population of people? They arent inherently bad… people at large reduce meaning and memeify things so the mental load is lighter. Its a problem on lemmy and its a problem for the majority of people living. They want to care about the right things but they are missing guidance. There used to be a more cohesive narrative that people trusted which is now gone now.

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                  So what do we do? Is there any particular gain by seething over a general population of people? They arent inherently bad… people at large reduce meaning and memeify things so the mental load is lighter. Its a problem on lemmy and its a problem for the majority of people living. They want to care about the right things but they are missing guidance. There used to be a more cohesive narrative that people trusted which is now gone now.

                  I cut ties with pretty much everyone in my life who was not willing to gender me correctly. That’s not seething, it’s me protecting myself from having to deal with their bullshit. I’m here in a lib online space as a leftist not because I “like” conservatives, but because I dislike when liberals act like conservatives.

                  It’s really a grand irony to be getting accused of being a republican because I have left-wing critiques of democrats and express disappointment in them.

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                    What does your answer have to do with tee9000’s question?

                    Americans make it a past time to hate on other Americans, and don’t think this is limited to Left vs. Right. I like meat. Not going to lie – I can be convinced to eat more plants and less meat, but I’ll fight you if you try to take my meat away. For that, I get called vile things by fanatic vegans who can’t seem to accept that I have my own life and make my own choices, despite the fact that I agree with them on a variety of other things, including having a lighter touch on the planet, being responsible stewards of our resources, treating animals with respect and kindness, and of course things like civil rights. Watch this; I expect them to be along shortly to prove my point.

                    My father and I can’t be further apart on politics. He’s a Goldwater Republican, old-school hard-core conservative that doesn’t like Trump the man, but loves Trump the politician. He runs his big truck on Earth Day just to spite the Environmentalists. Tee9000’s question speaks to my dad’s and my relationship. If I follow your pattern, I cut him out of my life and leave him high and dry. And trust me: there have been times when I wanted to do exactly that. But what would it accomplish? I’d be disowned by my dad, he’d die old and alone (mom died 5 years ago, I’m his only child), and we’d just hate each other. And I’d never have learned that he swapped out all his incandescent bulbs, which he swore the government would have to pry out of his cold, dead hands, for LED lighting, because…*gasp*…environmentalists listened to the criticisms of CFLs and replaced them with something that matched the quality of lighting from his favourite lights.

                    You can accomplish far more by listening and cooperating than you do by vilifying and hating on people. That’s Tee9000’s point.

                    Now, I’m not saying that you should put up with people misgendering you. Far from it. Stand up for your rights. But maybe instead of cutting people out of your life, you should make inclusion in your life contingent on respect. “You used masculine pronouns to refer to me despite knowing that I prefer feminine pronouns. Unless and until you respect me, I will not interact with you any more.” works far better than “fuck you, good bye.” It makes it clear on them that they have to respect you, and maybe, just maybe, you’ll actually change a few minds. I think that’s what Tee9000 is trying to say here.

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                    Agreed its really annoying when people categorize you based on nearly zero info like the other dumbass who replied to this comment.

                    I dare say try not protect yourself. Ignore the memers (real life or lemmy users alike), and discuss openly with the non memers who are actually trying to understand the world. Not exactly my business but maybe you are over-politicizing and feeding division.

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                    I’m here in a lib online space as a leftist not because I “like” conservatives, but because I dislike when liberals act like conservatives.

                    Oh great comment! I mean, you’re going to get downvoted to hell for it, and probably nasty DM’s, but you are making a great point.

                    Stay strong, girl. Don’t let anyone here bully you out of here. We need your voice.

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                Yeah, I’m actually diabolical getting paid by Putin, here to destroy you guys in mind combat online

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                  Deliberate doesn’t mean you’re getting paid.

                  You could just get a kick out of being contrary to feel special.

                  You could be a troll to feel superior.

                  You could be a MAGA masquerading as an anarchist.

                  And yes, you could also just be dumb.

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                    it rules that you guys have these elaborate backstories whenever someone has a different opinion from you lol

                    I’m just not interested in my representatives making sure endless american bombs are used to blow up childeren, that’s my main issue.

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        I’d just like to point out that you accidentally admitted that Democrats are your opposition. And that is hilarious.