• InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Racism, much? Also not true at all, the mainland has incredibly advanced production because the majority of the world produces there.

    That’s not racism, they’re literally the same race according to everyone including the fucking CCP!!! I know you don’t have to worry about facts, but don’t be so pathetically transparent.

    Also I doubt you’ve been to China lately, saying they’re on the path to Marxism is hilarious, let me guess, the new York stock exchange is the hub of western socialism too?

    They’ve copied us in everything but name, it’s a properly capitalist economy, which is why they’re doing so well. They even had their own real-estate financing bubble, we’re so proud.

    All the Healthcare and other improvements are from the west, are you honestly trying to tell me they invented any major medical breakthroughs? Because if they had, we would have copied them, which we haven’t. Not a lot of western drugs licensed off China, they stick to copying the low-end.

    And SMC is still a decade behind tsmc, no matter how much they cry, they don’t have euv in volume or anything on the level of euv, and they were one of the biggest consumers of Nvidia (fabbed in Taiwan with a Taiwanese founder and ceo) until they got cut off.

    This is exactly the same mindless propaganda the Soviet union tried to spread, you need to get better.

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      That’s not racism, they’re literally the same race according to everyone including the fucking CCP!!! I know you don’t have to worry about facts, but don’t be so pathetically transparent.

      This is exactly racism, there are numerous ethnic groups in China and Taipei.

      Also I doubt you’ve been to China lately, saying they’re on the path to Marxism is hilarious, let me guess, the new York stock exchange is the hub of western socialism too?

      No, the New York Stock Exchange exists in the context of an 80%+ privatized system where the bourgeoisie control the state.

      They’ve copied us in everything but name, it’s a properly capitalist economy, which is why they’re doing so well. They even had their own real-estate financing bubble, we’re so proud.

      I am once again asking you to explain why an economy that is over 50% publicly owned and managed, around 10% cooperatively managed, and the remaing private sector has CPC control, is Capitalist. Read Socialism Developed China, Not Capitalism. You haven’t read Marx, Engels, Lenin, Mao, or Deng, that much is obvious, but surely you can read a 20 minute article, right?

      All the Healthcare and other improvements are from the west, are you honestly trying to tell me they invented any major medical breakthroughs? Because if they had, we would have copied them, which we haven’t. Not a lot of western drugs licensed off China, they stick to copying the low-end.

      Yes, they have invented tons of medical breakthroughs. The West is interested in profit above all else. This is western chauvanism.

      And SMC is still a decade behind tsmc, no matter how much they cry, they don’t have euv in volume or anything on the level of euv, and they were one of the biggest consumers of Nvidia (fabbed in Taiwan with a Taiwanese founder and ceo) until they got cut off.

      And yet SMC is gaining on TSMC.

      This is exactly the same mindless propaganda the Soviet union tried to spread, you need to get better.

      You have never read Marx or any Marxist, why are you pretending you’re an authority on Socialism? It’s ridiculous cosplay.

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        2 months ago

        This is exactly racism, there are numerous ethnic groups in China and Taipei.

        https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2022/01/29/2003772257

        Last month, Ko said that the goal of the forum is to jointly build the “Chinese dream,” as “the two sides of the Taiwan Strait belong to one family” and “people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait are Chinese of the same race and speak the same language,” a Central News Agency report said.

        They are the same race, and I am tired of your pathetic at a racist view in what is clearly a political issue, that’s bigotry, plain and simple!

        I am once again asking you to explain why an economy that is over 50% publicly owned and managed, around 10% cooperatively managed, and the remaing private sector has CPC control, is Capitalist. Read Socialism Developed China, Not Capitalism.

        https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policy-topics/international-relations-security/what-future-chinas-private-sector

        Private firms contribute approximately 60% of China’s GDP, 70% of its innovative capacity, 80% of urban employment and 90% of new jobs.

        I read das capital it had value as a lens to interpret historical narratives.

        It’s also 150 years old, and every attempt to follow it’s principles has ended in complete disaster, often starvation or other forms of genocide, because while it models the collective selfishness of the rich, it WHOLLY fails to model the individual, as his focus on the collective (which was quite popular in the 1800s, as a vague attempt to “Darwinize” and model sociology in terms of group motives) collapses instantly when confronted with modern systems analysis and game theory which shows exactly how people actually behave in groups, selfishly and often without thought of others.

        This is why it fails, every time, at the simplest attempt.

        You need something that takes into account individualism, which Marx was too early for, if he lived today perhaps he could understand. You’re acting like something we tried to figure out before we even imagined the concept of DNA is relevant to our modern world.

        Zizek is actually the closest to someone able to understand Marxism in a modern context, but Marx himself is as obsolete as a telegraph machine.

        And yet SMIC is gaining on TSMC.

        Yes, the founder is Taiwanese (fled the PLA), they bought Chiang Shangyi and other actual talent (in hindsight, maybe you’re right about race, the Taiwanese do seem racially superior to mainlanders in every way), and bought the same machines from ASML and others.

        It’s like me saying I’m gaining on Messi because I got off the couch and bought a ball.