Senior Democrats in US cities are preparing to defend their communities in the event ofĀ Donald Trumpā€™sĀ return to the White House after the former president has repeated threats that he would use presidential powers to seize control of major urban centers.

Trump has proposed deploying the military inside major cities largely run byĀ DemocratsĀ to deal with protesters or to crush criminal gangs. He has threatened to dispatch large numbers of federal immigration agents to carry out mass deportations of undocumented people in so-called ā€œsanctuaryā€ cities.

He also aims to obliterate the progressive criminal justice policies of left-leaning prosecutors.

ā€œIn cities where there has been a complete breakdown of law and order ā€¦ I will not hesitate to send in federal assets including the national guard until safety is restored,ā€ Trump says in the campaign platform for his bid to become the 47th US president,Ā Agenda47.

TrumpĀ provoked uproarĀ earlier this week when he called for US armed forces to be deployed against his political rivals ā€“ ā€œthe enemy withinā€ ā€“ on election day next month. But his plans to use national guard troops and military personnel as a means to attack those he sees as his opponents go much wider than that, spanning entire cities with Democratic leadership.

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    Look at that, you canā€™t quote me, because I didnā€™t fucking say it.

    As for the name calling, youā€™re the one lobbing false accusations at me, an insult beyond me calling you out for the stubborn donkey that youā€™re acting like.

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      Lol sure thing kid. Youā€™re entire rebuttal was basically ā€œthose donā€™t countā€ā€¦so yes you absolutely did say it. Stop acting like you didnā€™t.

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        No, my rebuttal was that you posted a bunch of bullshit opinions pieces, 30 year old theater bills and a fucking Amazon link as ā€œevidenceā€ that the Democratic partyā€™s platform wants to repeal the second amendment.

        Your whole argument that I think those people donā€™t count as Democrats (a no-true-scotsman) you invented in your 2nd comment to me. In case you fucking forgot, here it is.

        So those %39 arenā€™t really Democrats? Got itā€¦

        This is literally you, building your own argument and attacking it instead of countering the argument that I put forward. Literally that is the definition of a strawman.

        From Wikipedia :

        A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.

        Enough of this though, here is the DNCā€™s platform for 2024

        https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/

        Feel free to look through it, and see what Democrats actually want to do, instead of believing bullshit republican propaganda about the Democrat platform.

        Learn some shit, and then get lost. Youā€™re done here.

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          instead of believing bullshit republican propaganda about the Democrat platform.

          Lol yeaā€¦all my links and the poll was republican propaganda.

          Learn some shit, and then get lost. Youā€™re done here.

          Lol ok kid

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            Your links are fucking laughable. No amount of Amazon shit, and opinions pieces are indicators of the platform for a political party. The most substantial thing was the 2 links to the same failed performance bill from 1994ā€¦ Which was never intended to pass, it was intended to signal the alternative if we couldnā€™t get an assault weapons ban.

            Youā€™d fucking know that if you were alive in the early 90ā€™sā€¦like this ā€œkidā€ was. You fucking lost, get over it.

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                Listen to meā€¦ 39 Smaller than 61. Say it with me

                39 is smaller than 61.

                So letā€™s get this straight, are you saying that the 39% are more substantial than the 61%?

                My whole point is:

                The idea that Democrats want to repeal the second amendment is fear mongering propaganda fed to the ā€œmuh gunsā€ people by Republicans.

                Democrats do not want to repeal the second amendment. Itā€™s not part of the platform, itā€™s never been part of the platform in my entire life.

                No, you canā€™t just cherry pick a few opinion pieces and Amazon links as supporting ā€œevidenceā€ for your claim that Democrats want to repeal the 2nd amendment. A group of people is not a hive mind, itā€™s a collection of individuals who have their own stances on every single issue presented. In the poll you posted, 8% of gun-loving Republicans wanted to repeal the 2nd amendmentā€¦ Are they not Republicans because they disagree with the part on that issue? Do they matter? Of course they do, and it would be silly to deny it, but that minority does not determine policy positions for the party.

                Democrats do not want to repeal the 2nd amendment, full stop.

                If you said, ā€œmost of the people who want to repeal the second amendment are Democratsā€ Iā€™d agree with you. If you said ā€œmore Democrats than Republicans want to repeal the second amendmentā€ Iā€™d agree with you, but saying that ā€œThe Democrats are hiding their desire to repeal the second amendmentā€ is plainly false. Itā€™s not supported by the statistics, itā€™s not supported by history. The only thing that supports it is a handful of opinion pieces and a few Amazon links.

                Honestly, if you still canā€™t understand this now, then you are either not representing yourself in good faith, or you are too far down the rabbit-hole to recognize logic or irony anymore. Either way, we should be done here. Unless you can come back with something substantial, like a recent (letā€™s say, post 9-11) bill brought to the floor by a majority of Democrats in Congress, or a platform statement by Democrats setting a goal to repeal the 2nd amendment, or a poll showing more than 50% Democrat support for a 2A repeal, then your position, that Democrats want to repeal the second amendment, is not based in reality.