• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    2 months ago

    No, they can’t, because they aren’t engaging in the genocide and Israel doesn’t need our help to commit it.

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      2 months ago

      Israel absolutely can’t do this without our weapons.

      This is an objective provable fact.

      Why do you believe that Israel ended every other war of aggression when there US forced them to end it.

      Where do you think their money for weapons comes from?

      Where do you think their weapons comes from?

      I can’t tell it you’re lying intentionally to justify genocide, lying unintentionally because you are just fantastically uninformed about the regions history, or just flat out delusional.

      Whatever the reason, you’re wrong. Biden could end this with a single phone call. You know, like has happened multiple times in the past. Because even if you don’t want to acknowledge the truth, Israel is aware of its absolute dependence on America.

      Now onto the genocide bit. Actually, I can’t. At this point it is so blindingly obvious it is it’s like trying to argue with someone claiming the sun doesn’t exist.

      I’m revising my opinion about your choice to lie about how much control the US has over Israeli adventurism.

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      2 months ago

      That is plain copium. Every political scientist worth their salt has said American support is essential to the modern Israeli state. America has been bombing Yemen, defending Israel diplomatically from the wider world and their neighbors and giving them billions of dollars. All naturalization treaties between Israel and its neighbors wouldn’t have been possible or sustainable without American support.

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        2 months ago

        American support is essential to the Israeli state, in response to aggression from Iran and other sources which is why we continue to provide it, it’s NOT essential to the genocide, which Israel is fully capable and willing to commit with their own resources.

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          Responding to multiple unprovoked acts of war from Israel is not aggression.

          Bombing a countries embassy in a third party nation is an act of war.

          Assassinating a visiting ambassador in Iran’s capital is an act of war.

          The only reason Iran didn’t respond to the first is because the US promised them a peace deal.

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          No, they can’t, because they aren’t engaging in the genocide and Israel doesn’t need our help to commit it.

          American support is essential to the Israeli state, in response to aggression from Iran and other sources which is why we continue to provide it, it’s NOT essential to the genocide, which Israel is fully capable and willing to commit with their own resources.

          Which is it? Are they committing a genocide or not?