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Liberals had nine years to decipher Mr. Trump’s appeal — and they failed. The Democrats are a party of college graduates, as the whole world understands by now, of Ph.D.s and genius-grant winners and the best consultants money can buy. Mr. Trump is a con man straight out of Mark Twain; he will say anything, promise anything, do nothing. But his movement baffled the party of education and innovation. Their most brilliant minds couldn’t figure him out.

  • Frank Casa@frank.casa
    916·
    1 month ago

    I think the problem is that many Democrats are stuck in an information bubble, and instead of listening to the other side, they demonize them and cancel them. It is hard to figure out what the other side is thinking if you don’t actually listen to what they are thinking.

    • dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
      111·
      1 month ago

      You’re gonna get downvoted, but you’re partially right. Everyone self-selects their media, and avoids things that challenge their assumptions. Liberals are not exempt from this.

      And if we are having nuanced policy discussions, it’s possible to listen to the other side and respond. But when our political discourse is “They’re eating the cats”, and you know that’s not true, what other way is there to respond?

      • gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world
        91·
        1 month ago

        A talking head who gets paid a six figure salary to go on TV and spout inane bullshit about immigrants eating pets shouldn’t be replied to. Cletus in the comment section who has a two year degree and makes an hourly wage to do skilled manual labor and honestly thinks the government will let any migrants who want to do so walk into the country whenever they want and give them a welfare check for their trouble does need to be spoken with.

        That’s all a lot easier said than done, but I think that’s the general outline of the problem here.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      71·
      1 month ago

      We see them. We live among them. We have to work with them. A lot of us have to hear them on the daily.

      We know that a lot of what they are “thinking” is due to letting the right wing propaganda machine take a big dump in their skulls every day, and nearly everything they are “thinking” (really, feeling) is based on entirely false premises.

      • Frank Casa@frank.casa
        2·
        1 month ago

        I think I know who you are talking about. The loud and proud ones. But what the loudest people are saying is no necessarily what most people are thinking. So you can’t assume everyone thinks like them.

      • Frank Casa@frank.casa
        1·
        1 month ago

        Even if their thinking is based on false premises, as you claim, they have legitimate grievances. The Democrats will never get their votes if they don’t address the grievances with a realistic alternative plan.

        • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          1 month ago

          What if their grievances are “there is an open border” and “kids are going to school and coming back after having a sex change”?

          • Frank Casa@frank.casa
            0·
            1 month ago

            Most people’s grievances right now are the economy and inflation. And they want change. They want the elites to have less control over their lives.

            Sure, the right has some crazy ideas. So does the left. But the middle decides elections because they are the swing voters, and the middle’s main grievances are the economy and that they feel helpless in a world where the wealthy control everything.