• Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    21 days ago

    Turns out most people would actually, there have been multiple surveys done now and that’s always the winner, but then how would businesses cope?

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      21 days ago

      By actually being better than their competition and “let the free market decide”? Oh wait, no, that’s just for deregulation.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        21 days ago

        Plenty of employers do take this approach. 4x10 isn’t an unknown work schedule. But a lot of firms are client facing and demand business hours coverage. What do you do when a client needs something on Friday (or Saturday or Sunday)?

        What do you do with staff for the back half of the 10, when clients aren’t around demanding support because the business day is over?

        4x10 works best when everyone you work for is either also 4x10 or on such a time delay that it doesn’t matter.

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          21 days ago

          Or you just stagger your workforce. Some are off Mondays, some are off Fridays, some can choose a midweek day as their regular day off. It’s not super complicated; managers just don’t want to put any effort into changing this.

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            21 days ago

            Or you just stagger your workforce.

            Definitely possible but also harder to manage. You need more redundancy in your workforce. You need good documentation of workflow and roles. You need a system for handing off work between staff and people roll on and off a project.

            It’s all possible. But it takes effort and some marginal degree of expense that a lot of admins don’t want to put forward. Bosses are naturally cheap and lazy. That’s why union leadership is necessary to improve the workplace.

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              21 days ago

              Agreed on every point. It’s possible. Bosses are bloated in that they’re largely ineffective and are more costly to the salary chunk of budget. If they were expected to accomplish things like workers are, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

              In reality, we should be implementing 4 8s as full time since study after study has shown that productivity actually increases when executed properly. There is measurable incentive for companies to transition to it.

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                21 days ago

                In reality, we should be implementing 4 8s as full time since study after study has shown that productivity actually increases when executed properly.

                Raising my little red and yellow flag with “Technocracy” spelled out in hammers and sickles.

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          21 days ago

          The business has more than one person working so there’s adequate coverage.

          We run some 10x4 but also a lot of 9x9. This is gonna leave some days with reduced coverage if it’s one person but, well, we aren’t one person. Everyone chooses a different day to be their “flex” day when they’re off. Everything is covered.

          Is it that companies are stuck thinking small?

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            The business has more than one person working so there’s adequate coverage.

            Unless everyone had identical knowledge, there is not. Good luck getting your HR lead to fix a server error or your pipeline engineer to submit your quarterly financials.