• blazera@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    Id love a digital currency system to bypass banks and credit card companies trying to legislate. But the scaling power consumption of crypto is fundamentally unsustainable

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      14 days ago

      I don’t really see the appeal of currency anarchy in general. Do the proponents of that really think that the power in that space wouldn’t be held by what essentially amounts to digital currency warlords (anyone with a lever to apply power and the matching lack of morals to do so)? Not to mention that some regulation of finances are a good thing, it is not as if every currency intervention by central banks is done for bad reasons.

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        Do the proponents of that really think that the power in that space wouldn’t be held by what essentially amounts to digital currency warlords (anyone with a lever to apply power and the matching lack of morals to do so)?

        Why do you think those proponents and digital warlords are separate people?

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          14 days ago

          You do make a good point but most of the levers to apply power in that space seem to be essentially controlled by how much computational power/how many nodes you can afford to run to apply control and most of the proponents are not really among the rich. They might, however, be among the ones who think they would be, sort of like the often cited temporarily embarrassed billionaires.

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        13 days ago

        I do see that appeal, because we have already seen that surveilled KYC transactions are undesirable in many situations, like if you’re making a donation to a dissident. While indeed, crypto cannot scale enough to be a primary method of payment - it still needs to be there as an alternative pathway.

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          14 days ago

          Yeah, and that would only get worse if the only controls over currency were applied by those with a lot of currency (proof of stake) or able to afford a lot of computational power (proof of work).

    • Digital currency doesn’t necessarily need mining (which is the main power waste).

      The ledger is also a pretty shitty model (given the growth issue), but maintaining a ledger is a fair way to earn crypto (sans mining)

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      13 days ago

      I agree that scaling power comsumption is unsustainable - both ecologically and ecoomically!
      But power consumption is no inherent attribute of crypto, but a design choice.
      Bitcoin just refuses to adjust.
      Ethereum did that not very long ago.

      What I’m trying to say is: there are designs available that operate at a very tiny power consumption.
      Don’t lump all crypto together with Bitcoin.