• wowwoweowza@lemmy.mlOP
      2·
      1 year ago

      Can you contribute a meme that conveys the toxicity of corporate media and the freedom of non-corporate connection? The freedom from tracking etc? Please show me the way. Something that will get your relatives to leave Facebook maybe?

    • wowwoweowza@lemmy.mlOP
      342·
      1 year ago

      Gen X but guilty as charged. How many boomers are making the transition to the Fediverse?

    • Bassman1805@lemmy.world
      181·
      1 year ago

      I’d say solidly GenZ. Thinking that everybody else is stuck in the vortex of lies but you have now broken free by [doing something only marginally different]. The kind of idealism you see in youth. Fediverse apps help with some of the problems we see in other social media, but ultimately it’s a new diet, same shit.

      • itsralC@lemm.ee
        6·
        1 year ago

        Ironically Plato takes this into account in his allegory. There are lots of levels to “knowledge” (which he equated with goodness); we could be in the same spot just with our heads turned, or right behind the wall, or outside the cave but looking at the reflections in the water. And in each stage everyone believes they’re right and that they know the truth (except maybe in the last one). Honestly I think with fedi we just managed to turn our heads.

        • joenforcer@midwest.social
          3·
          1 year ago

          We did. Keep in mind that the explosion of growth on Lemmy is mostly made up of people that lost their apps due to the API rule changes, the ones that were opinionated and engaged enough to be selecting a 3rd party solution. So, Lemmy just got bombed with the loudest and most self-righteous of reddit users that now loudly circlejerk about how much better Lemmy is. In reality, all we have is a less diverse crowd of really loud people. Same shit, different platform.

      • wowwoweowza@lemmy.mlOP
        1·
        1 year ago

        Reddit is about cynicism— Fediverse is about progress. Optimism.

        I’m a later comer here I think but I know everyone here met a great deal of disappointment in the redddit collapse.

        What if we rebuild together — something that lives up to the possibilities?

        • Bassman1805@lemmy.world
          2·
          1 year ago

          You sound like the CEO at my old company 🤣

          Fediverse makes improvements on existing social media formats, but there are so many issues inherent to online social media that cannot be fixed by slightly changing the format.

          Short-term, consequence-free interaction with strangers is not a substitute for actual social interaction, but it’s become one of the default modes of socialization in the modern world. It’s a bell that can’t be un-rung, but moving from reddit to lemmy isn’t going to mute it in any significant way either.

          • wowwoweowza@lemmy.mlOP
            2·
            1 year ago

            We are in complete agreement about the “value” of social media — very little. The real value as you imply is in-person humans making kind conversation in physical environments. Let’s do that.

            I’m really only here because I want to participate in the fall of Reddit — but just moments ago I was having a coffee with five close face to face friends — that’s where it’s really happening.

  • Dogyote@slrpnk.net
    8·
    1 year ago

    They’ll probably get here eventually, if they’re not here already. Granted it’ll be harder for them to control a narrative, but they’ll probably try with bots/paid commentors and complicit moderators.

    That can still happen, right? Is there something special about the fediverse that prevents those methods from being used to manipulate the user base’s opinions?

    • wowwoweowza@lemmy.mlOP
      11·
      1 year ago

      We’re literally here because we chose to leave the other place. Is there something wrong with identifying with the people we identify with? What’s your point exactly?

    • wowwoweowza@lemmy.mlOP
      3·
      1 year ago

      Wow… I read that whole thing— up to the continued in the comments.

      There was a comment in this thread about Reddit being about cynicism and the Fediverse being about authenticity (something even sweeter) and I read your mini essay and just loved it and found it whatever that sweeter word is.

      What gets me about this thread are the insults from Reddit refugees who don’t understand that the only way to topple Reddit — leave it the ghost town it deserves to be — is to live this optimism and to actually be the honey we thought Reddit once was.

      Everything you wrote about Reddit was spot on.

      Do you remember at the beginning of the collapse they rushed a reiteration of r/ place? What a joke.

      Anyway — I’m happy to join the Fediverse and Lemmy especially. I see it’s decentralized nature, and the fact we can all set up a server, as Lemme meaning: Let Me! Lemmy join. lemme participate. Lemme run an instance.

    • wowwoweowza@lemmy.mlOP
      2·
      1 year ago

      This is my second reply — it was you who said the touching thing— “To be a Redditor is to be cynical, to be a lemming is to be sincere.”

      I spent the last month and more poking around only Mastodon because of the “follower” impression lemming has and have come up with a more palatable association for Lemmy: Let me. Let me be a part of this better internet you envision.

      Anyway— thanks for replying to my humble meme in this new platform. I’m still feeling my way into it.