• frezik@midwest.social
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    5 days ago

    People have unironically done that. No, it isn’t better. The fundamental mental model is the same.

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      5 days ago

      I want to see their unironic attempts, maybe they’re useful to me at least if they’re not better.

      The fundamental mental model is the same.

      It’s not the fundemental model that I have a problem with for Regex, it’s the fucking brainfuck tier syntax

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      4 days ago

      I honestly think it can be a lot more readable, especially when the regex would have been in the thousands of characters.

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        4 days ago

        There’s a built-in feature that Perl has that only a few of the languages claiming PCRE have actually done, and it makes things a lot more readable. The /x modifier lets you put in whitespace and comments. That alone helps a lot if you stick to good indentation practices.

        If all other code was written like an obfuscated C contest, it would be horrible. For some reason, we put up with this on regex, and we don’t have to.

        https://wumpus-cave.net/post/2022/06/2022-06-06-how-to-write-regexes-that-are-almost-readable/index.html

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          4 days ago

          I agree, but then there’s also some other niceties that come from expression parsers in the language itself (as noted in the article): syntax highlighting, LSP, a more complete AST for editors like helix.

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            4 days ago

            Syntax highlighting works fine as long as your language has a way to distinguish regexes from common strings. Another place where Perl did it right decades ago and the industry ignored it.

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              Nah, the language itself should be as simple as possible. Bloating it with endless extensibility and features is exactly what makes Perl a write-only language in many cases and why it is becoming less and less relevant with time.

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                4 days ago

                Except it has some really good ideas that should be copied. There are other languages that have a syntax for denoting regex, such as ~r'foo' in Elixir. This gets the syntax highlighting you need without a big addition to the language.