• Omnipitaph@reddthat.com
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    Okedoke, well I just learned that I have no concrete grasp of political labels and need to do a LOT of research.

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      Extreme simplification:

      Liberalism: supports capitalism. Current system + tweaks

      Leftism: supports anticapitalism of some form, the two biggest umbrellas being Marxism/Communism and Anarchism

      Marxism/Communism: supports collectivization, public ownership, and central planning (I have an introductory reading list if you want to learn more, or just read Principles of Communism)

      Anarchism: supports full horizontalism and networks of communes

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          They’re conveniently leaving out the entire concept of Socialism for some reason, while making sure to mention Marxism by name.

          So I would make sure to add that to the list. Communism is a specific form of socialism, but the two are non synonymous.

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          You can still get goods and services in Socialism and Communism, I don’t know what you mean by “consooming.”

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      10 hours ago

      New kids are trying to pretend that liberal means centrist instead of its actual meaning which is simply “not conservative”

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        Liberalism is an ideology. Conservatism is a position on an ideologic binary. Uf you ascribe to Liberalism you are claiming belief in a very specific form of government and economy. If you claim to be a conservative you need to clarify what kind of conservative you are.

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        10 hours ago

        That is not and have never been it’s meaning. In fact, conservatives are a type of liberal.

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          No they are not unless if they are conservative Liberals. A conservative Maoist and a conservative libertarian have very different ideologies despite being conservative within their own binaries. This is due to the fact that conservatism is a position in a binary and is not an ideology.

          You can be a conservative and be illiberal.