and your bike stuff - oh well no they don’t have bikes at the facilities that was all bunk lol
you simply aren’t credible mate. I’ve never posited that they require a power plant. But they do require power, and it’s not exactly insignificant for any facility holding more than a few dewars.
RE: Thermodynamics, your original statement said that they didn’t require cooling or input - and that’s false. Sure you can get liquid nitrogen delivered from offsite - but what did it take to make it, transport it, and pump it around? Offsite doesn’t mean it’s free. It’s gotta be condensed somewhere. Pressure swing adsorption isn’t free. You can’t put out a bucket and wait for nitrogen to condense. You simply moved the requirement from ‘gotta make it’ to ‘gotta pay someone to make it and deliver it’. Which actually makes it’s impact larger. Creating it, moving it around, pumping it - all require - what’s that?
POWER.
Such a silly silly ‘debate’. So petty and insulting, while certain you’re an expert because…? lmgtf eyeballs and pemdas didn’t do you much good here.
that’s got to be at least per dewar / container. you’re not going to keep an entire facility going on 100w.
by storing liquid nitrogen they require no power.
bullshit. there’s going to be boiling even in a vacuum dewar; hell the moment you first fill it that load of cold liquid has to bring down the wall temps, causing some of it to boil.
it will have to be replaced eventually. and you’re entirely ignoring the fact that the nitrogen delivery is an tremendous cost in power, it’s simply occurring off site so you’re not counting it? pfft
so neither of us is a subject matter expert, but I’m not trying to sell you some kind of pie-in-the-sky ‘just top off the nitrogen and it’ll be fine’ line of bullshit.
as 99% of the people downvoted, perhaps maybe, just maybe, the way you’re expressing your views isn’t being read the way you’re intending. now, not saying you’re wrong, but perhaps with those kinds of numbers you’d be better off looking at what you wrote and revising that instead of silly stories about bicycle power and mythical efficiency.
and still, even if the nitrogen is delivered, internalize it does cost to be made. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH.
Even liquid nitrogen in a vacuum dewar will boil off a minute amount, which over time has to be replaced by new liquid nitrogen, which isn’t FREE TO MAKE.
you’re so fucking wrong and so oblivious I don’t see any point in continuing the dialogue. good day.
per what? hour, day, week?
and your bike stuff - oh well no they don’t have bikes at the facilities that was all bunk lol
you simply aren’t credible mate. I’ve never posited that they require a power plant. But they do require power, and it’s not exactly insignificant for any facility holding more than a few dewars.
RE: Thermodynamics, your original statement said that they didn’t require cooling or input - and that’s false. Sure you can get liquid nitrogen delivered from offsite - but what did it take to make it, transport it, and pump it around? Offsite doesn’t mean it’s free. It’s gotta be condensed somewhere. Pressure swing adsorption isn’t free. You can’t put out a bucket and wait for nitrogen to condense. You simply moved the requirement from ‘gotta make it’ to ‘gotta pay someone to make it and deliver it’. Which actually makes it’s impact larger. Creating it, moving it around, pumping it - all require - what’s that?
POWER.
Such a silly silly ‘debate’. So petty and insulting, while certain you’re an expert because…? lmgtf eyeballs and pemdas didn’t do you much good here.
Have a great day.
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that’s got to be at least per dewar / container. you’re not going to keep an entire facility going on 100w.
bullshit. there’s going to be boiling even in a vacuum dewar; hell the moment you first fill it that load of cold liquid has to bring down the wall temps, causing some of it to boil.
it will have to be replaced eventually. and you’re entirely ignoring the fact that the nitrogen delivery is an tremendous cost in power, it’s simply occurring off site so you’re not counting it? pfft
so neither of us is a subject matter expert, but I’m not trying to sell you some kind of pie-in-the-sky ‘just top off the nitrogen and it’ll be fine’ line of bullshit.
as 99% of the people downvoted, perhaps maybe, just maybe, the way you’re expressing your views isn’t being read the way you’re intending. now, not saying you’re wrong, but perhaps with those kinds of numbers you’d be better off looking at what you wrote and revising that instead of silly stories about bicycle power and mythical efficiency.
and still, even if the nitrogen is delivered, internalize it does cost to be made. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH.
Even liquid nitrogen in a vacuum dewar will boil off a minute amount, which over time has to be replaced by new liquid nitrogen, which isn’t FREE TO MAKE.
you’re so fucking wrong and so oblivious I don’t see any point in continuing the dialogue. good day.
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