All 10 of the largest U.S. meat and dairy companies have lobbied against environmental and climate policies, resisting climate regulations, including rules on greenhouse gases and emissions reporting. This is according to a study by New York University, which examined the political influence of the 10 largest meat and dairy companies in the United States.

  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    1 year ago

    agriculture is only about 20% of global emissions, but I would be fine with it being 100%: we need to eat.

    • kicksystem@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Except it’s mostly animal agriculture that’s destroying the planet. Animals are not at all efficient in converting crops to meat, dairy and eggs. It can take up to 16 kilograms of plants to create 1 kilogram of certain animal products. 77% of agricultural land is used to farm animals, despite it providing just 18% of the world’s caloric intake. Researchers at the University of Oxford have found that if everyone went vegan, global farmland use could be reduced by 75%, the size of the US, China, Australia and the EU combined. Just imagine how much land could be rewilded.

      And no, you absolutely don’t need animal products in your diet to be healthy and thrive.

      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        Animals are not at all efficient in converting crops to meat, dairy and eggs.

        livestock mostly graze on plants we can’t eat or are fed parts of plants that we can’t or won’t eat.

        • kicksystem@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          Globally livestock consume about 6 billion tonnes of feed annually – including one third of global cereal production – of which 86% is made of materials that are currently not eaten by humans. Producing 1 kg of boneless meat still requires an average of 2.8 kg human-edible feed.

          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211912416300013

          and most of this 86% could be converted to other uses, including human-edible feed.

            • kicksystem@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              1 year ago

              Yes it is true, but it still is a moot point because “producing 1 kg of boneless meat still requires an average of 2.8 kg human-edible feed.”

                • kicksystem@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  I already told you it is true, but it means nothing. Animal agriculture is still an incredibly big part of the problem fucking up the planet right now. I think I have supplied you with enough data for that by now. Maybe read it?

                  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    3
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    1 year ago

                    I think I have supplied you with enough data for that by now. Maybe read it?

                    it’s cute that you think i dont read OWID

                  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    3
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Animal agriculture is still an incredibly big part of the problem fucking up the planet right now

                    since all of agriculture is only about 20% of our emissions, and we need to eat, i disagree with your analysis.

      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Except it’s mostly animal agriculture that’s destroying the planet.

        that’s a lie.

      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        2018 poore-nemecek doesn’t say you should go vegan. it says the industry needs to change and make less animal products.

        • kicksystem@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          Ok, you wait for the industry to change, while making the planet and its inhabitants die in the mean time. Take no responsibility and complain about large corporations fucking up the planet, while simultaneously funding them.

            • kicksystem@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              1 year ago

              Nice projection. I am not shifting blame, but since you’ve said this it shows you’re obviously dealing with some massive cognitive dissonance. I have only been providing facts and sources dude. Animal agriculture is a massive source of problems for the planet. Besides all the things I have already told you: what do you think the leading causes of mass extincition, deforestation and global ocean and freshwater eutrophication are? Right…

              • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                1 year ago

                Besides all the things I have already told you: what do you think the leading causes of mass extincition, deforestation and global ocean and freshwater eutrophication are?

                industry.

              • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                1 year ago

                since you’ve said this it shows you’re obviously dealing with some massive cognitive dissonance.

                wrong.

              • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                1 year ago

                I have only been providing facts and sources dude.

                that’s a lie. the comment to which i was responding was pure rhetoric.

      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        77% of agricultural land is used to farm animals, despite it providing just 18% of the world’s caloric intake

        so?

      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        And no, you absolutely don’t need animal products in your diet to be healthy and thrive.

        you don’t know what i or anyone else needs, so kindly stop patronizing.

        • kicksystem@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          If you could free up a land mass the size of the US, China, Australia and the EU combined, don’t you think we could plants some trees?

          • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            just because we could doesn’t mean we would. why wouldn’t we turn it into shopping malls?

            • kicksystem@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              1 year ago

              Have you stopped and wondered how big a land mass the size of the US, China, Australia and the EU combined is? I am not sure how many shopping malls you have in mind.