• Jolteon@lemmy.zip
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      20 hours ago

      Haven’t they also been trying to put back doors into everything for the last decade?

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        19 hours ago

        EU is democratic, which also means everyone can propose a law. Never have EU put a backdoor into anything, but its true that there have been law proposals for it.

        Never voted through.

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          EU is not democratic. EU’s ruling entities are formed by governments of member countries. Which are supposedly democratic.

          And about never voted through - sometimes putting pressure is enough.

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            EU Commission and Council are indeed not elected directly, but the Parliement who propose and vote laws is. The way it works is similar to a parlementary republic (where coalitions of parties that includes >50% of MEPs make a governement together).

            It’s as democratic as democratic gets on that scale.

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              The EU isn’t democratic. As opposed to national parliamentary democracies, the European parliament has barely any power compared to the commission which has no democratic legitimacy.

              It’s as democratic as democratic gets on that scale.

              That is also completely false. There are numerous proposals that would make the EU more democratic, but that’s obviously against the interest of the incumbent neoliberal elite.

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        1 day ago

        EU could potentially make a group category like for Norway or Switzerland, and then take in other countries all around the world to cooperate more and stand together with the EU on some issues.

        Canada would be a great candidate. Maybe even Australia, but I dont really know anything about their politics.

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            It does kind of feel like the UN could use a refresh. In particular, the veto powers given to certain countries feels bad. There may be good reasons for that system, but the system is not good - and the details of the reasons have definitely shifted over time such that the choice of countries with veto power is now highly questionable.