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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 13 days ago

The U.S. vs. China summarized in a meme

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 13 days ago
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  • redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    China killed all their oligarchs? US oligopolies are now worse but that doesn’t mean we should play “There is no war in Basingse.” with China’s billionaires.

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      China Has Billionaires, but they are not oligarchs. They have very little political power. Just look at the number of rich people who’ve received the death sentence with reprieve, or the property developers who were left to flail and go bankrupt, or the sorry state of Jack Ma when he tried to exercise political influence.

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        These are some of the reasons why I would argue that it is wrong to place the People’s Rep. of China in the category of a generic capitalist country. I actually consider the Chinese economy to be presocialist, but the evidence that I have seen suggests that capital, the law of value, and generalised commodity production are all steadily shrinking in terms of prominence and importance, which is the opposite of what we would expect to find under a typical capitalist régime (id est a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie).

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          Marxist-Leninsts consider socialism to be the transitional stage from capitalism to communism (under a dictatorship of the proletariat/democratic centralism), so from that point of view, the China is socialist now. https://files.catbox.moe/6n2qll.avif

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            I know… but the grumpy leftcom in me still prefers the strict criteria.

            Paradoxically, I think that most ultraleftists would roll their eyes at me anyway for having a mostly positive view of the People’s Rep. of China.

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      “There is no war in Basingse”

      Libs stop thinking of politics like a children’s story challenge (impossible)

      • redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Would a reference to Westworld or a historical page from Wikipedia make you feel better? Maybe Ostriches? How would you like to play pretend?

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      Why read theory when you have YA fiction?

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      China killed all their oligarchs?

      please circle the part of the image that says anything of the sort

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      Removed by mod

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      Oh. That is a good point. You really showed us how wrong we were. I wish that I were as smart as you.

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      This is what happens when underdeveloped critical faculties are subjected to sustained saturation of propaganda. 👆

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        What are you talking about? Every single information source in the United States is always constantly talking about how great the PRC is, whether it’s in schools, on television, on websites (especially Reddit), on the radio, from think tanks, and so on. A perspective like ‘China also invests in genocide and mass detention, torture, surveillance and rape’ should blow your mind away: nobody has ever said that before! How can you read that and remain unpersuaded‽

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          We are so lucky to live in the enlightened west where we have so much free and unbiased media available to us unlike those oriental savages.

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            but whyyyyyyy do you trust Chinese sources??? huh???

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              How can you even trust a source where tiny morsels of actual content aren’t obscured by layers of ads.

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