• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    14 hours ago

    People will always want more, Communism isn’t a vow of poverty, it readily acknowledges that production will continue to improve when Humanity has become Capital’s master, rather than its slave.

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      Greed is boundless for some. If anything Capitalism is the perfect example of this. I don’t see how having enough will fix it for them.

      When I look at the open-source community the way altruistic projects reach sustainable success is with a beneficial dictator which is authoritarian but has correct intentions.

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        I don’t really see how that’s a problem for Communism. People go without megamansions all the time in Capitalism, and it isn’t just those who can afford them that want them. Satisfying a much larger quantity of needs is a good thing.

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            I don’t think the idea of Communism that exists in your head is the same understanding of Communism that Marxists have, if that’s the question you’re asking. Could you explain how you think someone would go about “trying to aquire more wealth than they need” in a Communist system to begin with, and why it would be an issue?

            I’m trying to understand where the differences are in our understanding so I can better get across what I’m talking about, I’m not trying to insult your intelligence or anything.

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              Sure, so I’m completely unfamiliar with the whole Commune structure and am wondering how wealth would be acquired and distributed. Are people rewarded for their labor and how does ownership work?

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                Depends on the level of development of Communism, and we won’t know what is applicable to when until we get there. Communism isn’t a Utopia invented by Marx, but a prediction for the future based on analysis of politics and economics throughout history and the present, ergo we have to develop into it and see where it actually takes us.

                In general, though, with a fully publicly owned and planned economy, people would be rewarded for their labor, yes, but it might take the form of labor vouchers, a different form of currency, etc designed to not be transferable to others in the economy individually, but with the social fund as a whole. This system of varying “prices” can be solved for using various feedback loops called “cybernetiks.”

                I recommend reading Prices in a Planned Economy, it’s a useful intro to how to think about abolishing the commodity form.

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      13 hours ago

      Vow of Poverty can be pretty powerful in the early to mid game (levels 1-9) due to the exalted feats and bonus stats being higher value than could be purchased on magic items.