Hey guys, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this (feel free to point me to a better community) but I’m in a weird “predicament” this summer: My AMD build plans are in shambles after receiving a free ROG Astral 5080.
Now I want to make the switch now with my current (Intel i7-13700K) hardware + this new card. I was only considering AMD before but it’s really hard to say no to a video card worth more than my entire budget lol
The slightly worse performance compared to Windows is still an upgrade from my 3070 so that’s fine - It’s initial/recurring troubleshooting I don’t really want to deal with. Most of the info I’ve found is from earlier this year and no one speaks highly of the beta drivers
Sorry if this is a stupid question but am I setting myself up for disappointment with this new plan? I have a few more related questions I’ll toss in the comments but that’s my main concern.
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In most cases, everything works fine. Some people experience issues, but most don’t.
I would try Garuda!
Anything that sets it apart for you? I’ve seen the name in passing but don’t know anything about it
It’s a Linux distro made specifically with gaming on Nvidia GPUs in mind. It’s basically Arch, but GPU drivers are included with the installation, and Steam, Proton, and Wayland are already installed and configured for you.
Great performance and perfect for people who don’t want to set up all this stuff themselves, but like I said earlier, no NV Control Panel or NV App.
It also comes with a “Dr460nized” theme that you may or may not like. It reeks of early 2000s adolescence, but I was a teenager in that era so I kind of like it. Of course you can easily disable it and use a more mature theme if you’d like.
For a first time Linux gamer I’d recommend Garuda.
My lack of Linux knowledge is showing…I was under the impression Arch was more for “hardcore” users, is that an outdated mindset (or was it ever true)?
That’s the nice thing about Garuda; all the difficult stuff is already set up for you, but because the distro is basically Arch, you still have the power to do whatever you want with your OS once you’ve used it for awhile and get the hang of things. If you wanted, you could even strip out all the Garuda stuff and return to vanilla Arch.
That’s why I recommend it for first time Linux gamers. It’s Arch with easy mode enabled. And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I was under the impression Arch was more for “hardcore” users, is that an outdated mindset (or was it ever true)?
It’s more nuanced than that.
Arch Linux, the distro Garuda Linux is derived from, is definitely not a distro that holds your hand like e.g. Linux Mint does. It (somewhat) demands you to read extensively through its excellent[1] ArchWiki.
However, Garuda and other derivatives[2] are opinionated takes on Arch that try to fulfill a specific goal that its respective maintainers have in mind. This can range from using Arch Linux as a base for delivering:
- a scrutinizingly optimized distro that at (the very) least inches out every other distro in performance (i.e. CachyOS)
- a distro that functions as a glorified installer[3] for Arch. But with that, remains very close in spirit to what Arch is all about (i.e. EndeavourOS)
- a ready-to-go gaming distro (i.e. Garuda Linux)
- (and everything in between and beyond…)
(Note that the oversimplified descriptions found above don’t quite do justice to the enormous effort that is put into these projects. Furthermore, it has to be mentioned that each of these distros proud themselves on the amazing communities they’ve built.)
Finally, it goes without saying that having an Arch base continues to pose a (potential) maintenance burden[4] with the constant stream of updates. While some of the above distros include some of the available protections by default, none claim to provide a silver bullet[5]. Thankfully, problems ‘should’ only act up every once in a while. And (almost surely) deflecting them with a working snapshot provides an evergreen magical experience.
So, to conclude, Arch Linux as a distro definitely is more demanding than e.g. Linux Mint. However, the derivatives mentioned above definitely bridge the gap to a remarkable extent. So much so, perhaps, that you might not even notice much of a difference (besides the constant stream of updates).
Arch Linux is not unique in its extensive documentation. This is more of a trend we find on other distros that come with (almost) no defaults; e.g. Gentoo also sports a(n arguably even more) comprehensive Wiki. This makes total sense as these systems require from their users to set it up. Which, unsurprisingly, is a nonstarter without proper guidance. ↩︎
This includes but is not limited to the likes of CachyOS and EndeavourOS. A more exhaustive list is found here. ↩︎
Historically speaking, the hardest part about Arch Linux was its installation. This has since been mostly alleviated with the introduction of
archinstall. ↩︎I think the Upgrading the system section of its System maintenance wiki entry is one of the most striking examples of what I mean. I’m simply unaware of any other distro that requires/demands something similar. Note that -on Arch- you’re encouraged to update daily or at least weekly. ↩︎
In Arch Linux’ defense, this is a hard problem to solve without introducing radical changes. Even openSUSE that pioneered the BTRFS + Snapper workflow in its Tumbleweed, is actively seeking and working on an even more powerful solution. But let’s not get down that rabbit hole for now 😜. ↩︎
I had multiple nvidia cards before. People were saying it is going to be fine, etc.
Never again. I bought an AMD for the first time, and fuck-A it’s great.
What about selling the NV to get an AMD?
It would work but you’ll be missing some features (e: even in distros meant for NV GPUs, like Garuda), especially the Nvidia Control Panel and Nvidia App.
That means no access to the 3D Settings page, so if you need to adjust a graphics setting that isn’t in-game, you can’t. (Like which performance mode the GPU runs in and other settings that can decrease display lag and increase FPS; if you play competitive games it can be a hindrance to not have access to these settings.)
That also means no RTX HDR, so you’ll be forced to to watch SDR YouTube videos and play SDR games in SDR (games and videos with native HDR support will still work, of course). There is no native conversion to HDR in Linux (you can still convert offline videos with MPV, though), which is a damn shame cause even SDR content looks great when converted. Especially games.
That said, if you don’t have an HDR display and don’t play competitive games, you might be able to get by just fine without the features offered by the Nvidia App and Control Panel. Yeah it sucks that you won’t get every feature the GPU supports, but then again you didn’t pay for it, so it’s not like you’re not getting your money’s worth.
