The .ml folks are (sort of) communist, strictly pro-Putin and pro-China… it’s very weird. They argue in a completely fact-free fashion; sometimes i wonder whether they are parodists or extraterrestrials. I sometimes get into lengthy, absurdist discussions with them, THEN I discover they are from .ml, and THEN I block them. Quite amusing in its own way, but you need to be able to handle them, I like to interact with them early in the morning when I’m enjoying my first coffee.
I signed up when it was the main instance, and could never be bothered to migrate since. Plus, not seeing curse words is actually quite nice (.ml censors them)
yes, ban other opinions immediatelyand don’t objectively look at what they say.
That way you can get the same circlejerk opinions like most social and mainstream media.
Those fanatic opinions say more about them than about .ml
Lots of trolls on those instances. They’ll try to sound like they’re making reasonable points while also outright denying facts and even contradicting themselves. If you take the bait and try to reason with them, they’ll gaslight you and try to make you doubt your sanity.
And sometimes they travel in packs and will brigade you, especially on posts that are a day or two old and not as active anymore. Basically to isolate you and team up on you and make you question yourself.
We have theories about some of them having ties to certain authoritarian countries (like russia). But they’ll constantly virtue signal about their anti-west stances, and accuse you of supporting every terrible thing that any western country does or ever did if you so much as criticize their dear russia.
They’ll strawman you, they’ll sealion you, they’ll gish gallop, motte-and-bailey, and basically use every disingenuous or bad faith trick in the book. And if you call them out on it, they’ll only keep attacking you using ad hominems and DARVO.
If you don’t know what any of those things are, it would be good to look them up and equip yourself with the knowledge so that you can recognize it when you see it. Because you will see it if you’re here long enough.
It’s not too bad overall though, and people are generally reasonable. Learning what instances to avoid is half the battle, then block the communities where you see it happening most. There are some where they tend to congregate.
After that, make good use of the block button for users who stress you out. And there’s a useful feature on some clients where you can tag users with custom tags, so you can label them as “possible troll” or “insufferable tankie” or something like that if you’re not ready to block someone yet for any reason.
Lastly, remember this motto, and it will serve you well: Don’t feed the trolls!
Ok ! Why ? It seems the ml and glad (grad ? gmad ?) domains have the worst image here, Why ?
The .ml folks are (sort of) communist, strictly pro-Putin and pro-China… it’s very weird. They argue in a completely fact-free fashion; sometimes i wonder whether they are parodists or extraterrestrials. I sometimes get into lengthy, absurdist discussions with them, THEN I discover they are from .ml, and THEN I block them. Quite amusing in its own way, but you need to be able to handle them, I like to interact with them early in the morning when I’m enjoying my first coffee.
I’ve been on Lemmy since the API blackout 3+ years ago and have never seen this. I wonder if my instance blocks them?
I’m from .ml and I can assure you I am perfectly sane
Why did you stay on ml if you’re sane?
I signed up when it was the main instance, and could never be bothered to migrate since. Plus, not seeing curse words is actually quite nice (.ml censors them)
Why isn’t he like the fanatics wanting to block opinions they don’t like? How weird
A lot of instances do. They’re usually blocklisted due to trolling or exclusionary/supremacist posting.
yes, can’t have other opinions, they will decide for you
OK.
Tends to be bullshit. There’s some notable exceptions but tends to be bullshit.
yes, ban other opinions immediatelyand don’t objectively look at what they say.
That way you can get the same circlejerk opinions like most social and mainstream media.
Those fanatic opinions say more about them than about .ml
Lots of trolls on those instances. They’ll try to sound like they’re making reasonable points while also outright denying facts and even contradicting themselves. If you take the bait and try to reason with them, they’ll gaslight you and try to make you doubt your sanity.
And sometimes they travel in packs and will brigade you, especially on posts that are a day or two old and not as active anymore. Basically to isolate you and team up on you and make you question yourself.
We have theories about some of them having ties to certain authoritarian countries (like russia). But they’ll constantly virtue signal about their anti-west stances, and accuse you of supporting every terrible thing that any western country does or ever did if you so much as criticize their dear russia.
They’ll strawman you, they’ll sealion you, they’ll gish gallop, motte-and-bailey, and basically use every disingenuous or bad faith trick in the book. And if you call them out on it, they’ll only keep attacking you using ad hominems and DARVO.
If you don’t know what any of those things are, it would be good to look them up and equip yourself with the knowledge so that you can recognize it when you see it. Because you will see it if you’re here long enough.
It’s not too bad overall though, and people are generally reasonable. Learning what instances to avoid is half the battle, then block the communities where you see it happening most. There are some where they tend to congregate.
After that, make good use of the block button for users who stress you out. And there’s a useful feature on some clients where you can tag users with custom tags, so you can label them as “possible troll” or “insufferable tankie” or something like that if you’re not ready to block someone yet for any reason.
Lastly, remember this motto, and it will serve you well: Don’t feed the trolls!