As I can see, Docker is not available in RHEL10 (at least for now). Yes, I know, podman is an option, I already converted all of my services, but for my nextcloud setup… I find it impossible to make it full functional in podman… Edit: Okay I succeeded, thank you for your messages, I know how to manually install rpms, the main point was to discuss that Docker is not available in RHEL.

  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.worldEnglish
    42·
    8 hours ago

    hasn’t been available since like 8. right?

    IBM bought redhat, negotiations with docker bottomed out because docker wouldn’t appease IBM execs, and IBM used their competitor podman. IBM yanked docker out of all packages almost overnight.

    yet another reason why I left redhat. any company that uses their power for the sake of using it makes running business on their platform hard, but that’s kind of IBM’s whole schtick.

  • truthfultemporarily@feddit.orgEnglish
    211·
    16 hours ago

    So containers have been standardized for a while now (OCI), and even if you install “docker” it’s actually just installing containerd with docker-cli. For years kubernetes is not even supporting docker-shim anymore. So there should be no issue. What is even the problem you are running into?

    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.worldEnglish
      52·
      8 hours ago

      podman is not a replacement to docker.

      I fucking hate how the podman docs say that(because ofc they do).

      it’s like saying c++ is a replacement to c. can they work, sure. are they the same? you try importing libs into c the same way you do in c++ and find out. yeah, they’re both c under the covers but they are not the same.

    • shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lolEnglish
      18·
      17 hours ago

      Yes, until it’s NOT. Running RHEL 9 with docker engine slapped in there because the BitBucket self-hosted containerized runner is incompatible with podman.

      • Zikeji@programming.devEnglish
        17·
        16 hours ago

        Last time I tried to migrate to Podman the first container I tried was incompatible, so was the second, and the third. Turns out at the time Linuxservers.io stuff wasn’t rootless podman compatible. There have since been some improvement according to my most recent Google search just now, so maybe a retry is coming up.

    • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      41·
      17 hours ago

      Yes, I already moved everything and works perfectly… except… nextcloud…

      I am trying to setup a new one but too much debugging the last 10 hours

  • SpikesOtherDog@ani.socialEnglish
    8·
    17 hours ago

    Oh, I see that RHEL has officially dropped docker support. You can try installing from binaries, but you are definitely striking out on your own here.

    I don’t mean to rake you over the coals here, but what is the reasoning for sticking with RHEL for this project? If you are attempting to use it in an paid enterprise situation, you are better off sticking with items on the compatibility list. If you run into issues with other supported services, the first piece of advice will be to remove docker. Since your are not getting support for docker, I would advise running it from a supported OS.

    • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      42·
      17 hours ago

      Well, as I am running my personal server for years, I wanted to test/understand more enterprise solutions except Debian/Ubuntu and especially solutions with SELinux. In the end if I face major issues I will setup Nextcloud to a VM. Thank you for your response

      • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
        23·
        11 hours ago

        If you’ve been running these “for years”, you certainly should know the pitfalls of switching to a brand new distro. Like the exact situation you’re asking about.

        You should also know that packages tagged as compatible with another version of any distro won’t harm your current one to just install and find out if it works.

        As many other commenters are saying, we don’t know what your problem is, or why you’re here.

    • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      83·
      17 hours ago

      Yes, I have already read that and it clearly says:

      To install Docker Engine, you need a maintained version of one of the following RHEL versions:

RHEL 8
RHEL 9
      • ilmagico@lemmy.worldEnglish
        61·
        17 hours ago

        I guess what they’re saying is, even though it’s “not supported” officially, you can still try and there’s good chances it’ll work anyway. If you need or prefer to stick to a supported configuration, it seems your options are either to switch to podman and figure out nextcloud, or switch away from RHEL.

      • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
        67·
        17 hours ago

        I don’t know why people ask for help and refuse to listen when it’s given.

  • koala@programming.devEnglish
    4·
    16 hours ago

    Nextcloud is in EPEL 10. You’ll get updates along with the rest of the OS.

    I have been using EPEL 9 Nextcloud for a good while and it’s been a smooth experience.

    If you want specifically Docker, I would not choose an EL10 distro, really. I have been test driving AlmaLinux 10 and it’s pretty nice, but I would look elsewhere.

  • thejml@lemm.eeEnglish
    51·
    17 hours ago

    Reading the Docs, it seems like PodMan is the replacement for docker. You could try containerd/nerdctl, but podman is likely the best way for you. RHEL10 docs even say it supports the older docker config options

      • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
        412·
        17 hours ago

        🤦

        So do like I said and visit the Docker official docs, setup the RHEL repos, and install it. Or, you can just install the ROM packages individually. OR you can wait a few weeks until the official packages show up which will ease the the same thing.

        Your choice.

        • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          94·
          17 hours ago

          😊

          The official docs:

          To install Docker Engine, you need a maintained version of one of the following RHEL versions:

RHEL 8
RHEL 9
          • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
            419·
            17 hours ago

            Man, if you’re this green, just go back to RHEL 9 until they come back and tell you it’s okay to do exactly as they say. Did you just come here to complain, or do you honestly not know how this all works?

            Literally download the RPMs like I said if you don’t know how to use backref repos.

            • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
              94·
              17 hours ago

              The main point was about that Docker is not available for now in RHEL10. Chill

              • non_burglar@lemmy.world
                English
                34·
                12 hours ago

                I’m as sympathetic as the next person, but you’ve been pointed to several correct answers a number of times here, and you just keep replying “its not available in rhel 10”.

                We know it’s not available in rhel10. None of us can change that.

                Either figure out how to borrow rpms from other distro repos, or pick a distro that holds your hand the way you want.

                • Zeoic@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  51·
                  10 hours ago

                  Oooor people could stop being rude when he clearly doesn’t know if you can install an rpm from 9 on 10. All I have seen are people saying “do this”, and when he says he can’t, people complain instead of elaborating. If you dont want to help, dont. There is no need for everyone to gang up on him…

              • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
                413·
                17 hours ago

                When people like you stopping coming in here with useless comments and complaints, I’ll stop responding to them. 🫰