The EU is really taking a stand against Apple. Between that and the opening to alternative stores it’s a lot of things that put apple in a weird situation. Either it applies those changes to all devices or it has to create a separate device to comply to EU and risk complains that those QOL are not available in other places.
Unless they make the EU device more ugly, so EU users will complain in hopes this will force the EU to revert its decision. If all companies did this it might be a powerful move.
It’s not really worth it to make different devices for different regions, that’s why all iphones 15 will have USB-C.
And tbh I don’t really buy the idea of devices being more modular = uglier. Framework laptops are a great example of how you can have a slick device and still be able to open it up and swap hardware easily. Without having everything glued and/or held with proprietary screws.
Different regions do get different devices though. US gets a different 5G antenna, and chime gets dual physical sims, just as examples. I’m sure there are other differences between regional variants.
Don’t be silly. You almost make it sound like the EU is a big evil monster. I honestly don’t see a push to make batteries easier to replace a bad thing. I also don’t think it would be hard for Apple to design their products with that feature in mind. Well, perhaps the AirPods, but certainly not the iPhone and if anyone have the skills to do it and the money too…I’d say it’s Apple. Apple of course don’t like to be restricted, they want to keep tight control over everything.
Please show me how you can make an iPhone at the exact thinness that also has an easy-swappable battery. You make it sound like this is something Apple can do but refuses to do.
It turns out that almost nobody swaps their battery even in phones with easily-swappable batteries. Apple decided that it wasn’t a big factor among customers when deciding phones, and even the first iPhone outsold phones with swappable batteries. The entire market switched over.
You’re requesting something impossible for me, making it irrelevant. I also don’t make any claims about thinness. I’m just saying I think Apple with all their amazing engineers would be able to solve it.
I don’t know whether this requirement is generally relevant for most users, it might not be, but I think we should strive for devices that are as easy as possible to repair to give them a longer life. An iPhone have immensely capable hardware these days - the other bit is of course software support.
That’s not what I’m saying. Clearly there will be a trade off. I’d be highly surprised if the Apple engineers haven’t spent many, many hours exploring every little detail about their iPhone designs. If Apple and everyone else is forced to design their devices to have easily replaceable batteries, then I’m sure Apple will be able to make a pretty good solution for it because they are amazing at what they do.
The EU is really taking a stand against Apple. Between that and the opening to alternative stores it’s a lot of things that put apple in a weird situation. Either it applies those changes to all devices or it has to create a separate device to comply to EU and risk complains that those QOL are not available in other places.
It does apply to all devices as far as I understand, this isn’t Apple specific at all.
What I mean is that those issues are symptomatic of apple devices.
I don’t think others are much better if at all.
Unless they make the EU device more ugly, so EU users will complain in hopes this will force the EU to revert its decision. If all companies did this it might be a powerful move.
It’s not really worth it to make different devices for different regions, that’s why all iphones 15 will have USB-C.
And tbh I don’t really buy the idea of devices being more modular = uglier. Framework laptops are a great example of how you can have a slick device and still be able to open it up and swap hardware easily. Without having everything glued and/or held with proprietary screws.
I didn’t say modular is uglier. But that manufacturars would put the ugly on top to try to make people believe modular is uglier.
Different regions do get different devices though. US gets a different 5G antenna, and chime gets dual physical sims, just as examples. I’m sure there are other differences between regional variants.
Will all manufacturers do that though? People will just buy the phones from manufacturers who doesn’t have a huge stick upp their a**.
Don’t be silly. You almost make it sound like the EU is a big evil monster. I honestly don’t see a push to make batteries easier to replace a bad thing. I also don’t think it would be hard for Apple to design their products with that feature in mind. Well, perhaps the AirPods, but certainly not the iPhone and if anyone have the skills to do it and the money too…I’d say it’s Apple. Apple of course don’t like to be restricted, they want to keep tight control over everything.
I am all for regulating Apple, just speculating what they could do.
Please show me how you can make an iPhone at the exact thinness that also has an easy-swappable battery. You make it sound like this is something Apple can do but refuses to do.
It turns out that almost nobody swaps their battery even in phones with easily-swappable batteries. Apple decided that it wasn’t a big factor among customers when deciding phones, and even the first iPhone outsold phones with swappable batteries. The entire market switched over.
You’re requesting something impossible for me, making it irrelevant. I also don’t make any claims about thinness. I’m just saying I think Apple with all their amazing engineers would be able to solve it.
I don’t know whether this requirement is generally relevant for most users, it might not be, but I think we should strive for devices that are as easy as possible to repair to give them a longer life. An iPhone have immensely capable hardware these days - the other bit is of course software support.
“Engineers can do anything!”
No, they’re limited by physics and size constraints. I’d also like a phone that is easily repairable by me, but there’s a trade off.
That’s not what I’m saying. Clearly there will be a trade off. I’d be highly surprised if the Apple engineers haven’t spent many, many hours exploring every little detail about their iPhone designs. If Apple and everyone else is forced to design their devices to have easily replaceable batteries, then I’m sure Apple will be able to make a pretty good solution for it because they are amazing at what they do.
Ugliness just simply doesnt matter, if it has improved functionality, it would be sought after from outside the EU.