Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) on Tuesday claimed the social media platform TikTok is creating “warped” perceptions of Israel’s war with the Palestinian militant group Hamas. When as…
The only proper stance to have on this is that Israel’s genocide of Palestinians must stop, Hamas needs to be taken out, and Netanyahu should be deposed.
Then, Israel needs to be split into a smaller section and land given back to the Palestinians.
Gaza and West Bank do not work as being surrounded by Israel. They are prisons.
At this point I’m done with the whole two state solution thing. That was bending over backwards to protect a colonial state while we all felt guilty. They squandered that. It’s time for a single state solution with full voting rights. And yes that means the end of Israel as we know it. But that’s how it went for South Africa, and Zimbabwe, and Rwanda, and countless other colonial remnants that held on too long.
Why would Hamas need to be taken out? Violent resistance to a terrorist Nazi state is not illegal.
Taking out Hamas will solve absolutely nothing as 5 other organizations will pop up in their place. The problem is only israel, not Hamas.
Israel cannot be reasoned with and the two state thing will never happen. All the israeli ministers are already screaming it from the rooftops on national TV.
it’'s like telling Hitler to peacefully live next to the Jews. Or the whites in Apartheid south Africa to just take half the land for themselves.
The problem has always been with Israel which is the bully. You are playing the teacher right now that says “you two divide the meal” when the bully beats a kid up and steals his lunch.
Israel shoots unarmed protestors and says boycotting Israel is terrorism. When you refuse to allow any nonviolent resistance what do you expect will happen?
Netanyahu spent decades undermining Palestinians who actually want peace, because they get in the way of his plan to take all the land. He doesn’t want compromise. He doesn’t want any Palestinians as neighbors. His extremism creates more extremism.
Conveniently ignoring that Israel was historically the party offering a two state solution that was rejected.
The resistance wouldn’t even be necessary if Hamas leaders weren’t both extremists without an interest in their own people’s well-being and incredibly corrupt.
That being said, fuck netanyahu, too. Doesn’t make Hamas less of a terrorist group tho.
That’s historically untrue. Israel offered an unworkable solution and it was rejected. Palestinians offered another solution and it was rejected by Israel. The US offered a solution and that was rejected too. The UN offered a solution and both sides rejected it.
It’s revisionist history to put the blame solely on one side.
Hamas fully recognized Israel and got nothing in return, as Netanyahu then moved the goalposts. Gazans peacefully protested and got shot by Israeli military. They asked the UN for help and Israel called it “diplomatic terrorism” and punished them for trying. The Netanyahu government has bragged that they blocked peace plans for 17 years. Believe them when they say it.
This is false Hamas has specifically avoided targeting children and their attacks were heavily targeted around military bases.
Israel is a Terrorist group that indiscriminately kills. You seem to confuse them with each other but always keep in mind that israel is far more evil than Hamas.
No you are sadly. There are mountains of videos of Hamas avoiding killing children on Oct7 and not a single video of Hamas intentionally killing a child.
You are as brainwashed by IDF colonists as Russians that invade Ukraine
Violent resistance to a terrorist Nazi state is not illegal.
Hamas’ violent resistance is directed at innocent civilians. Regardless of how you personally feel about it, Hamas are being taken out. And if 5 other orgs pop up they’ll be taken out too. Your Hamas has lost. Move on.
Lmao really that joke? You’re still on the IDF propaganda train?
Hamas attacked military bases and their targeting was pretty good with a lower than 2/3 civilian casualty to IDF terrorist kill rate.
Look at the pure numbers after all the IDF propaganda of beheaded babies and you’ll see very quickly that Hamas attack was not indiscriminate whatsoever.
Now the IDF kill numbers do clearly show that they are indiscriminately targeting civilians because the IDF is a terrorist organization only interested in genocide.
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Both sides are incredibly biased and think they’re right.
The only proper stance to have on this is that Israel’s genocide of Palestinians must stop, Hamas needs to be taken out, and Netanyahu should be deposed.
Then, Israel needs to be split into a smaller section and land given back to the Palestinians.
Gaza and West Bank do not work as being surrounded by Israel. They are prisons.
The killing has to end.
At this point I’m done with the whole two state solution thing. That was bending over backwards to protect a colonial state while we all felt guilty. They squandered that. It’s time for a single state solution with full voting rights. And yes that means the end of Israel as we know it. But that’s how it went for South Africa, and Zimbabwe, and Rwanda, and countless other colonial remnants that held on too long.
Why would Hamas need to be taken out? Violent resistance to a terrorist Nazi state is not illegal.
Taking out Hamas will solve absolutely nothing as 5 other organizations will pop up in their place. The problem is only israel, not Hamas.
Israel cannot be reasoned with and the two state thing will never happen. All the israeli ministers are already screaming it from the rooftops on national TV.
it’'s like telling Hitler to peacefully live next to the Jews. Or the whites in Apartheid south Africa to just take half the land for themselves.
The problem has always been with Israel which is the bully. You are playing the teacher right now that says “you two divide the meal” when the bully beats a kid up and steals his lunch.
Hamas is a literal terrorist group that indiscriminately kills.
Romanticizing them as some kind of freedom fighters is not only reductive but plain wrong.
They are antisemitic extremist terrorists
Israel shoots unarmed protestors and says boycotting Israel is terrorism. When you refuse to allow any nonviolent resistance what do you expect will happen?
Netanyahu spent decades undermining Palestinians who actually want peace, because they get in the way of his plan to take all the land. He doesn’t want compromise. He doesn’t want any Palestinians as neighbors. His extremism creates more extremism.
Conveniently ignoring that Israel was historically the party offering a two state solution that was rejected.
The resistance wouldn’t even be necessary if Hamas leaders weren’t both extremists without an interest in their own people’s well-being and incredibly corrupt.
That being said, fuck netanyahu, too. Doesn’t make Hamas less of a terrorist group tho.
That’s historically untrue. Israel offered an unworkable solution and it was rejected. Palestinians offered another solution and it was rejected by Israel. The US offered a solution and that was rejected too. The UN offered a solution and both sides rejected it.
It’s revisionist history to put the blame solely on one side.
Hamas fully recognized Israel and got nothing in return, as Netanyahu then moved the goalposts. Gazans peacefully protested and got shot by Israeli military. They asked the UN for help and Israel called it “diplomatic terrorism” and punished them for trying. The Netanyahu government has bragged that they blocked peace plans for 17 years. Believe them when they say it.
This is false Hamas has specifically avoided targeting children and their attacks were heavily targeted around military bases.
Israel is a Terrorist group that indiscriminately kills. You seem to confuse them with each other but always keep in mind that israel is far more evil than Hamas.
Brainwashed to the max lmao.
No you are sadly. There are mountains of videos of Hamas avoiding killing children on Oct7 and not a single video of Hamas intentionally killing a child.
You are as brainwashed by IDF colonists as Russians that invade Ukraine
Hamas’ violent resistance is directed at innocent civilians. Regardless of how you personally feel about it, Hamas are being taken out. And if 5 other orgs pop up they’ll be taken out too. Your Hamas has lost. Move on.
Lmao really that joke? You’re still on the IDF propaganda train?
Hamas attacked military bases and their targeting was pretty good with a lower than 2/3 civilian casualty to IDF terrorist kill rate.
Look at the pure numbers after all the IDF propaganda of beheaded babies and you’ll see very quickly that Hamas attack was not indiscriminate whatsoever.
Now the IDF kill numbers do clearly show that they are indiscriminately targeting civilians because the IDF is a terrorist organization only interested in genocide.
I just hope both teams have fun.
Keep trolling while hamas is being removed. See what good it does you.
Last time I checked the IDF was shooting at Israeli hostages. Hamas is still up and running no problem.