• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    “No you don’t understand, because there are a bunch of people, the majority loves excruciating pain and CBT.”

    You’re arguing for inefficient and slow infrastructure on the grounds that efficiency is bad and inefficiency is fun for you personally.

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      11 months ago

      I’m saying it can all exist together if you were actually paying attention.

      And comparing a minor inconvenience to torture, that’ll get people to understand your side… good job!

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        11 months ago

        You’re saying people love inconvenience and that’s why everyone should bend over backwards to support the overwhelmingly inconvenient infrastructure to maintain inefficient and inconvenient traditions.

        It’s anti-science and anti-progress, lol

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          I’m saying some people can get over a minor inconvenience. You do when you take a slower method of transport like public, walking or biking.

          So yeah YOU can love an inconvenience, but others can’t…? Shit take yet again…

          You’re ignoring that it can be done correctly and is in some places. Why do people always conveniently do this?

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            11 months ago

            It isn’t a minor inconvenience. It completely ruins infrastructure, eliminates vast amounts of space, destroys the environment, and sucks people’s time.

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              The infrastructure can all work together, it can take up no more space than it does now, it can even be done in less. It won’t destroy the environment if it’s done correctly, why is every rebuttal of yours just hand waving that can also just be handwaved away?

              The freedom to go when and where takes less time actually, bad infrastructure makes it take longer. Public transport will never be faster and more convenient than personal travel. I scan stop on a whim where I want, if public transport did that it work take hours. That’s why fast transports like mag trains stop so infrequently with large stops. Buses go from there and there is other options, but it’s all guess what, time…….

              Private transport will always be most time economical, it’s hilarious that you think that’s a valid point on your side.

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                No it cannot. Car centric infrastructure necessarily destroys the environment far more and takes up far more space.

                I’m not hand-waving your points, I’m pointing out why they are terrible points.

                The rest of your comment is baseless and rejects reality. Proper public transit is faster and doesn’t require vast amounts of space, and with proper urban planning you can go anywhere you want whenever you want. You can’t with cars, it takes forever to get where you need to go, because cars carry far less people per square meter.

                You have no points at all, just vibes.

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                  Lmfao. This community is a joke. Must be, to be this ignorant of reality.

                  It doesn’t have to take up more space, claiming the same thing, while denying reality (places do it already) is quite the walled garden you’ve made for yourselves here.

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                    It’s quite simple. Cars hold far fewer people per square meter than public transit, and need wide roads for traffic and potential accidents. They destroy the environment and require infrastructure like stoplights, that waste minutes at a time.