For some additional context, Houthi members have been attacking commercial ships using internationally recognized shipping lanes, and opened fire on US military aircraft. Whether or not the bombing is justified, the narrative that “people are in Yemen territorial waters” is gross misinformation at best.
“Internationally recognized” not by Yemen. The Yemeni had no saying on that. That is just imperialist appropriating Yemeni’s waters and then using their influence to validate their claim. What you are spreading is gross imperialist propaganda.
I mean… disrupting international trade is just asking for trouble.
That’s not even a “capitalism bad” thing; it’s just a matter of fact that safe international trade needs to be a thing in order to have a global economy
“Internationally recognized” not by Yemen. The Yemeni had no saying on that. That is just imperialist appropriating Yemeni’s waters and then using their influence to validate their claim. What you are spreading is gross imperialist propaganda.
You can’t restrict access to waterways that other countries further upstream depend on to function. If this were the US cutting off access to the sea for say, the Gaza strip (which they already help Israel do, actually, so I am definitely not saying they are morally right here), then you’d have a much different opinion on it, wouldn’t you?
Almost the entire world recognizes this basic courtesy of the sea. It’s like damming a river for yourself and starving out others who weren’t as fortunate to live closer to the source.
Either we have free access to the oceans and waterways for all, or we just shut down international trade and all become hermit kingdoms.
The US has several active embargos on countries like Cuba via sea, its completely right for other countries to resist America by utilizing the same tactics they do. Its like spies, sure we can all agree unaccounted agents of the state who infilitrate other govs is inherently a bad thing, but if we where to stop it from happening it would require the country with the most power to stop first; otherwise its a prisoners dilenma where you either lower yourself to there level and as such manage to stay ahead, or take the purist route and dont do it at all, and now you’re just being dominated.
Comparing a Yemen blockade, a bombed and oppressed country from illegal cluster muntions dropped on them between 2016-now by the West to American blockades, which are repressive tools used by a rich country under no actual threat is disenginous and carries water for the fascist american regime.
I disagree. There should not be freedom to transport aid to a genocidal entity to keep genociding people. Advocating for freedom for that in the umbrella of “human rights” is just plain disingenuous and irresponsible if not downright evil.
You can very easily make a correct hypocrisy argument but it’s not just the USA going out of its way to bomb brown people. They were warned (threatened really) explicitly by for example the UN that if they kept shit up there’d be consequences and well they kept fucking around. Everybody wants safe maritime trade and they were raiding civilian vessels breaking international law. What’s happening is an obvious consequence of their behavior.
But again you can easily make a correct hypocrisy argument for the USAs behavior cause well you know there’s kind of a genocide going on we still haven’t done jack shit about.
Even outside of the genocide, which is the primary factor and would be enough by itself, the Yemen people have every right to have grievances with the west considering they have been helping drop bombs that violate human rights treaties on them.
The Houthis also gave fair warning to the ships to go back and they just turned off their radios and continued anyway to provide aid to a genocidal entity. The Houthis are trying to help Palestine not to be genocided. Any response to a genocidal entity is justified.
Not halted; The Houthi movement has been firing missiles and sending drones at civilian vessels. They were given fair warning to stop by the coalition members of Operation Prosperity Guardian, and continued to attack anyway.
The Houthis also gave fair warning to the ships to go back and they just turned off their radios and continued anyway to provide aid to a genocidal entity. The Houthis are trying to help Palestine not to be genocided. Any response to a genocidal entity is justified.
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For some additional context, Houthi members have been attacking commercial ships using internationally recognized shipping lanes, and opened fire on US military aircraft. Whether or not the bombing is justified, the narrative that “people are in Yemen territorial waters” is gross misinformation at best.
“Internationally recognized” not by Yemen. The Yemeni had no saying on that. That is just imperialist appropriating Yemeni’s waters and then using their influence to validate their claim. What you are spreading is gross imperialist propaganda.
I mean… disrupting international trade is just asking for trouble.
That’s not even a “capitalism bad” thing; it’s just a matter of fact that safe international trade needs to be a thing in order to have a global economy
Yemen has the right to embargo whoever they want from using their waters.
This isn’t Yemen, it’s the Houthis. AFAIK, the internationally recognized State of Yemen isn’t involved.
We’re talking international shipping routes. What the Houthi movement is engaging in is piracy, plain and simple.
It’s not “their” waters, it’s internationally recognized shipping lanes.
“Internationally recognized” not by Yemen. The Yemeni had no saying on that. That is just imperialist appropriating Yemeni’s waters and then using their influence to validate their claim. What you are spreading is gross imperialist propaganda.
You can’t restrict access to waterways that other countries further upstream depend on to function. If this were the US cutting off access to the sea for say, the Gaza strip (which they already help Israel do, actually, so I am definitely not saying they are morally right here), then you’d have a much different opinion on it, wouldn’t you?
Almost the entire world recognizes this basic courtesy of the sea. It’s like damming a river for yourself and starving out others who weren’t as fortunate to live closer to the source.
Either we have free access to the oceans and waterways for all, or we just shut down international trade and all become hermit kingdoms.
The US has several active embargos on countries like Cuba via sea, its completely right for other countries to resist America by utilizing the same tactics they do. Its like spies, sure we can all agree unaccounted agents of the state who infilitrate other govs is inherently a bad thing, but if we where to stop it from happening it would require the country with the most power to stop first; otherwise its a prisoners dilenma where you either lower yourself to there level and as such manage to stay ahead, or take the purist route and dont do it at all, and now you’re just being dominated.
Comparing a Yemen blockade, a bombed and oppressed country from illegal cluster muntions dropped on them between 2016-now by the West to American blockades, which are repressive tools used by a rich country under no actual threat is disenginous and carries water for the fascist american regime.
I don’t agree with the US doing it either. Freedom of travel by sea should be a basic human right.
Yeah well if it slows down the US’s and Isreals genocide im all for it, at least someones doing something.
I disagree. There should not be freedom to transport aid to a genocidal entity to keep genociding people. Advocating for freedom for that in the umbrella of “human rights” is just plain disingenuous and irresponsible if not downright evil.
You can very easily make a correct hypocrisy argument but it’s not just the USA going out of its way to bomb brown people. They were warned (threatened really) explicitly by for example the UN that if they kept shit up there’d be consequences and well they kept fucking around. Everybody wants safe maritime trade and they were raiding civilian vessels breaking international law. What’s happening is an obvious consequence of their behavior.
But again you can easily make a correct hypocrisy argument for the USAs behavior cause well you know there’s kind of a genocide going on we still haven’t done jack shit about.
Even outside of the genocide, which is the primary factor and would be enough by itself, the Yemen people have every right to have grievances with the west considering they have been helping drop bombs that violate human rights treaties on them.
https://news.sky.com/story/saudi-arabia-using-uk-made-cluster-bombs-in-yemen-fallon-to-confirm-10702271
Houthi Militia =/= Yemen
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The Houthis also gave fair warning to the ships to go back and they just turned off their radios and continued anyway to provide aid to a genocidal entity. The Houthis are trying to help Palestine not to be genocided. Any response to a genocidal entity is justified.
Not halted; The Houthi movement has been firing missiles and sending drones at civilian vessels. They were given fair warning to stop by the coalition members of Operation Prosperity Guardian, and continued to attack anyway.
The Houthis also gave fair warning to the ships to go back and they just turned off their radios and continued anyway to provide aid to a genocidal entity. The Houthis are trying to help Palestine not to be genocided. Any response to a genocidal entity is justified.