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      11 months ago

      That and the price is the problem, in my opinion at least. What it can do looks quite impressive I think and has some nice ideas not really done commercially at the consumer level before.

      But, I suspect it’ll be another iPhone. It will rule the roost for a short time and then someone will come out with a comparable product, for noticeably less that will work with other hardware too and connect with other non-apple software.

      But, I guess for those in the ecosystem (who already have big pockets already for this kind of thing) it looks really good.

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        There’s already competing products just like with the iPhone. If this thing succeeds, it will succeed despite that, not because of it.

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          I don’t know. I saw some reviews, and in the consumer space at least I’m not aware of a device that is putting stuff in shared space fixed in a location and can make virtual screens with the rest of your vision maintained. It’s these things I expect to be copied and homogenised pretty quickly.

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            11 months ago

            There are apps for the Quest that can do that.

            Tried the Vision at the mall today, though, and it’s pretty awesome. I had an experience I’ve never had in VR yet - when shown heights, my body actually reacted as if it was real.

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      11 months ago

      You people crack me up. Such a small little bubble you live in while pointing fingers about being in a bubble.

      If you can’t see the purpose of an eco system that sucks.

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        To lock customers in, to make others feel excluded, all leading to more profits… It’s simple, everything they do is to try and make you buy their shit by making it inoperable with everything else…

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          I completely forgot about this thread.

          This made me laugh out loud. Apple doesn’t give a shit if you or anyone else feels excluded. They are not sitting around thinking about how to exclude people rofl. Allowing a product to make me feel excluded is wild as fuck.

          Yes they want you to buy their product so they make their other products work well with each other. OMG like OMG. What a business idea.

          I wrote out a bunch of other stuff explaining how designing and engineering works well if it’s focused and can be good but damn it’s not worth it. Sorry you can’t see light through the bubble.

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      It’s crazy to me how many of you people don’t understand this - most people like the walled garden. It’s fine if it’s not for us techies. That’s not who it’s for.

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        I don’t think people like the walled garden. I think they don’t know what it is even. They assume they can’t buy a competitors headset/watch/tv because it won’t work, and often they’re probably right because apple refuses use open protocols. But I don’t think they draw the line between the two. It’s not because of apple refusing to implement something it doesn’t work. It’s because “the competitor is bad”, or because they don’t have the “deep integration” between the two or something. It never occurs to them that if you just make the API public it suddenly “just works” for everyone.

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        Maybe it’s because us people hate corporate loyalty and anti consumer practices. And corporations are like lemmings, they see one company doing it and they all wanna follow.

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          Then don’t buy their products. It’s just weird to me that people want to complain so incessantly about a garden they don’t have to live in.

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              Why? It’s meaningless. Don’t buy the copycat products, then. The only reason they exist is because people buy them.

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            Walled gardens are inherantly designed to exclude communities and drive classism. Want to view this picture? Sorry you can’t because you dsint pay the fee. Want to chat with this group? Sorry were going to make inconvienent to everyone involved that you didn’t pay the fee.

            The end goal is to split people up into have and have nots in order to drive desire for your product with little thougt given to the poorer communies it disenfranchises. Your attitude is the boomer “fuck you. Got mine” one.

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              That’s one opinion. The other is that I like that all my devices operate seamlessly with each other and save me time and aggravation. I like that I can give my parents Apple products and not worry about them downloading things that might compromise their data or mess up their devices. The fact that limits exist is exactly what I like about Apple products. When I pick them up, they work.

              I say this as a current and previous owner of multiple PCs that I built myself and multiple Android devices. I used to love dicking around with all that stuff. Now I just need it to work and I need it to be secure and reliable. I get that with Apple products. I don’t get that with Linux, Windows, or Android anymore.