The people still back on the matrix major platforms still do things that affect you indirectly like voting, buying things that shape everyone’s market, or having their cognitive biases explored, listed and exploited in ways that yours may also be by pr firms.
My only defense I suppose is that regardless of their data being harvested. They vote against their own interests.
They have been warned for decades that their data was being harvested. They did not listen because they do not care. They do not vote for things that would improve my life. So even if the statement is correct.
It does not change the outcome.
People will vote for what they want.
We are not altruistic.
We should be. As things that improve others will inherently impact us. As voting for selfish reasons will folly us all the same.
your reasoning does fit the spitit of this list. You dont care because its not your data.To be clear, i am not faulting you for having that opinion even while i personally disagree, i am trying to speak out about a rather noticeable case of double standards within the community.
Lemmy.world is the community you are a part off, its also the community the meme example i shared on.
A community is not the same as a subreddit but as a tiny full reddit. Its run by admins who set rules and standards for the entire server they own and with tends to come sort of ideology. When you go to lemmy by default you will see the frontpage of your community only.
@memes, @technology within a community are call places but i don’t like that naming. They are like a subreddit and i find they actually have the strongest community feeling and guarded ideologies. They are much smaller so if you see double standards within one of those its usually a sign of an echo chamber. This was not such a case.
Theres also the fediverse. Which is all lemmy and related servers that are federated. This is the bigger lemmy community that curates what gets to the front page of “all” because most of lemmy is progressive and safe for minorities other communities servers that openly welcome nazis and c-abusers have been defederated so they can no longer see or interact with eachother. If you both comment on the post on a neutral server then you wont even see eachother comments
Its very likely that at least one of the
People upvoting you saw that meme 2 days earlier and thought “yeah they only care when they are affected, which is obviously wrong and i would never do it” simultaneously id expect people who felt really strong about that meme to be perceptive enough to recognize it in your comment and downvote it. (No offense) but because it was about Facebook, many peopl on lemmy dont have facebook. We all passionately hate it. You basically got people agreeing against their own ideology, which is again normal but does weaken that ideology.
Progressives like me should strive to care against that are wrong no matter if its us or someone else.
I am not from ukraine or palestine, i dont have family or friends there but i know people are suffering and i want a better world for them, likeways i want the boomer population on facebook to have a better world where there data isn’t routinely stolen by
Bigtech.
That is a lot of thinking. It’s interesting you mentioned echo chamber then go on to describe an echo chamber. Nobody on any subreddit lemmy nor community all have the same thoughts and feelings.
So there shouldn’t be a single idea. That’s not a good thing. For humanity to work, discourse is required.
Single ideologies that are narrow and never wavering are pretty bad news.
Exactly, there is nothing wrong with your opinion or stance, i am raising awareness to a particularly subgroup of people that needed it. Cause i saw signals that they where around.
I kinda wish there was a way to comment without
Having to bother you in the process.
Rereading the chain i should have worded it better to not sound so assuming that you where present at “yesterday’s meme rally” . Bias on my part. Excuzedmoi
I cant see the up/downvote ratio but i still expect many people here are hypocrites.
What signs ? I don’t mind being bothered. Why I wanted clarification. I am/ was under the impression it’s an internet forum and there’s no mob mentality.
I think you are potentially overthinking a comment on a meme bit who knows.
The statistical majority appeared to hold an opinion of “Republicans are evil because they only care when issues affect them” otherwise the meme wouldn’t have gotten so big.
Yet the ratio on your comment tells a completely different story. I find it hard to comprehend unless bias.
I have an autistic tendency to observe intense patterns from very small details and i am math nerd. I am almost certainly partly overthinking it.
Thanks for having patience, have a nice day aswell.
Congrats, Lemmy is usually a vocal critic against those that “only care about issues when they affect them personally” but you managed to get upvotes.
I am not holding it against you, bias is human but it is something some of us should reflect about.
Sorry I don’t grasp your comment. Can you elaborate
The people still back on the
matrixmajor platforms still do things that affect you indirectly like voting, buying things that shape everyone’s market, or having their cognitive biases explored, listed and exploited in ways that yours may also be by pr firms.Yeah I suppose that’s pretty fair.
My only defense I suppose is that regardless of their data being harvested. They vote against their own interests.
They have been warned for decades that their data was being harvested. They did not listen because they do not care. They do not vote for things that would improve my life. So even if the statement is correct.
It does not change the outcome. People will vote for what they want. We are not altruistic.
We should be. As things that improve others will inherently impact us. As voting for selfish reasons will folly us all the same.
Theses usually a variation of this that makes it to all once a week.
https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/11663694
your reasoning does fit the spitit of this list. You dont care because its not your data.To be clear, i am not faulting you for having that opinion even while i personally disagree, i am trying to speak out about a rather noticeable case of double standards within the community.
What community?
Right, this can get confusing. I’ll give t a go.
Lemmy.world is the community you are a part off, its also the community the meme example i shared on.
A community is not the same as a subreddit but as a tiny full reddit. Its run by admins who set rules and standards for the entire server they own and with tends to come sort of ideology. When you go to lemmy by default you will see the frontpage of your community only.
@memes, @technology within a community are call places but i don’t like that naming. They are like a subreddit and i find they actually have the strongest community feeling and guarded ideologies. They are much smaller so if you see double standards within one of those its usually a sign of an echo chamber. This was not such a case.
Theres also the fediverse. Which is all lemmy and related servers that are federated. This is the bigger lemmy community that curates what gets to the front page of “all” because most of lemmy is progressive and safe for minorities other communities servers that openly welcome nazis and c-abusers have been defederated so they can no longer see or interact with eachother. If you both comment on the post on a neutral server then you wont even see eachother comments
Its very likely that at least one of the People upvoting you saw that meme 2 days earlier and thought “yeah they only care when they are affected, which is obviously wrong and i would never do it” simultaneously id expect people who felt really strong about that meme to be perceptive enough to recognize it in your comment and downvote it. (No offense) but because it was about Facebook, many peopl on lemmy dont have facebook. We all passionately hate it. You basically got people agreeing against their own ideology, which is again normal but does weaken that ideology.
Progressives like me should strive to care against that are wrong no matter if its us or someone else. I am not from ukraine or palestine, i dont have family or friends there but i know people are suffering and i want a better world for them, likeways i want the boomer population on facebook to have a better world where there data isn’t routinely stolen by Bigtech.
That is a lot of thinking. It’s interesting you mentioned echo chamber then go on to describe an echo chamber. Nobody on any subreddit lemmy nor community all have the same thoughts and feelings.
So there shouldn’t be a single idea. That’s not a good thing. For humanity to work, discourse is required.
Single ideologies that are narrow and never wavering are pretty bad news.
See example Nazi Germany.
Exactly, there is nothing wrong with your opinion or stance, i am raising awareness to a particularly subgroup of people that needed it. Cause i saw signals that they where around.
I kinda wish there was a way to comment without Having to bother you in the process.
Rereading the chain i should have worded it better to not sound so assuming that you where present at “yesterday’s meme rally” . Bias on my part. Excuzedmoi
I cant see the up/downvote ratio but i still expect many people here are hypocrites.
What signs ? I don’t mind being bothered. Why I wanted clarification. I am/ was under the impression it’s an internet forum and there’s no mob mentality.
I think you are potentially overthinking a comment on a meme bit who knows.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
The statistical majority appeared to hold an opinion of “Republicans are evil because they only care when issues affect them” otherwise the meme wouldn’t have gotten so big. Yet the ratio on your comment tells a completely different story. I find it hard to comprehend unless bias.
I have an autistic tendency to observe intense patterns from very small details and i am math nerd. I am almost certainly partly overthinking it.
Thanks for having patience, have a nice day aswell.