2004 was only as high as it was because it was Bush after 9/11.
But seriously though, trying to pass off Al Gore as a “young” candidate at 52 is hilarious, that man came out of the womb with bifocals complaining about “kids these days”.
The sheer audacity of claiming 52 is young just highlights how normalized this has become. A 52 year old running for their first term should already be considered too old.
It’s a bit morbid, but thank goodness for COVID happening when it did as that forced the rapid expansion of early and mail in voting which helps mitigate this issue without addressing it directly.
I don’t think there’s enough political will to do the sensible thing, make Election Day a federal holiday, because that would promote access to democracy to the lower classes and that is a threat to both parties.
All making it a holiday would accomplish is giving bankers the day off while most of everyone else who works for a living would still have work. On a day the buses aren’t running because it’s a holiday.
But now we have a holiday, so there’s no need for early voting.
Hmm, I think that’s a very fair point. It seems very unlikely that the US would accommodate a holiday without asking service workers to work through it, or even incentivize it with extra pay.
Do you think compulsory voting, like in Australia, would be more effective, then? Or perhaps another alternative?
You could have at least read the part you quoted chief…
That doesn’t guarantee having the day off. Many people will still go to work on a holiday, however they will be compensated with higher pay or be allowed to use the holiday off in the future.
So 1/4 dont get holidays, and of the 75% who do, “many” still work.
You’re also ignoring that the 75% include everyone that gets a single day off. And acting like they’d also get this new holiday off.
She would turn 35 before inauguration, so she’d technically be eligible. Not speaking as to whether it would be a good idea or a bad one, but it’s possible.
“We”? We can’t really do much about it. It’s the RNC and DNC that control that.
It would take the mass mobilization and coordination of a majority of Americans across party lines (big caveat there) to make a third party candidate viable. That’s an issue, especially when a significant part of the nation does indeed want fascist rule.
Edit: I’m not even sure it would be useful to primary better candidates as it’s the DNC and RNC who controls who is on their primaries. Even when the DNC allowed someone like Bernie Sanders on the ticket, they did everything they could to squash his campaign.
This is the problem. The RNC and the DNC are both private businesses looking to profit in one way or another. Neither give one fuck about the citizens. They only run candidates that are willing to serve the PARTY.
That’s because it won’t. Elections aren’t a panacea for society’s problems. Each election is a stepping stone, not the end goal. We get to decide if we take a step forward or fall backwards.
Okay, so don’t let them. Work to ensure we take that step forward. Join a campaign. Canvas for a candidate. Get your friends signed up and pumped to vote. Look up any relevant laws regarding voting (early voting, mandated paid time off, etc.) and make sure people know about them.
But most importantly, vote. Vote often. Vote strategically. You may not always win by trying your hardest, but you will surely lose by doing nothing.
Which geriatric coffin dodger do you want, America? The fascist or the neo liberal?
The choice is obvious, but, fuck if it ain’t depressing.
That’s what I hate about the:
Like, I’d rather have both my legs cut off than my head, most people would.
But people ain’t going to stand in like 5 hours after work to pick. Because for a lot of us, having both legs cut off is just a slower death
Because America doesn’t have basic social systems to care for us, and we’d get bankrupted by the medical bills
That’s the choice:
Meanwhile neoliberals don’t understand why 1/3 of voters don’t vote
45% of voters didn’t vote when it was a 54 year old vs a 52 year old in 2000 Bush v Gore. It’s not the age thing.
The nepotism baby of HW, and one of the least charismatic people to run for president…
Wonder why turnout was low…
Meanwhile look at 92 and 08 when two of our youngest presidents ever, and they blow out everyone around them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections
2004 was only as high as it was because it was Bush after 9/11.
But seriously though, trying to pass off Al Gore as a “young” candidate at 52 is hilarious, that man came out of the womb with bifocals complaining about “kids these days”.
The sheer audacity of claiming 52 is young just highlights how normalized this has become. A 52 year old running for their first term should already be considered too old.
High voter turnout in 08? But McCain was 72! Guess it’s not the age thing.
I don’t know if it would be worse if you were being sincere or trying to troll…
But neither is a good look, have fun whatever you’re doing I guess
It’s a bit morbid, but thank goodness for COVID happening when it did as that forced the rapid expansion of early and mail in voting which helps mitigate this issue without addressing it directly.
I don’t think there’s enough political will to do the sensible thing, make Election Day a federal holiday, because that would promote access to democracy to the lower classes and that is a threat to both parties.
All making it a holiday would accomplish is giving bankers the day off while most of everyone else who works for a living would still have work. On a day the buses aren’t running because it’s a holiday.
But now we have a holiday, so there’s no need for early voting.
Hmm, I think that’s a very fair point. It seems very unlikely that the US would accommodate a holiday without asking service workers to work through it, or even incentivize it with extra pay.
Do you think compulsory voting, like in Australia, would be more effective, then? Or perhaps another alternative?
I’d prefer universal mail ballot like Colorado and Washington have.
Lol, this guy thinks the majority of workers get holidays off…
The solution is making it a week. Give people a full ass week to vote, count em up at the end of the week.
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You could have at least read the part you quoted chief…
So 1/4 dont get holidays, and of the 75% who do, “many” still work.
You’re also ignoring that the 75% include everyone that gets a single day off. And acting like they’d also get this new holiday off.
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Because it’s way too late for anyone else at this point. Unless you can think of someone who has a legitimate chance of beating both Trump and Biden.
Hold on…
Taylor.
Swift.
(And/or Jon Stewart… Damn that would be a ticket…)
I think one major criterion for presidential candidate has to be ‘wants to run for president.’
There’s no chance in hell I’d ever vote for a popstar for president. Entertainers have proven to do tons of damage to the country (see Reagan, Trump).
It’s irrelevant in this case anyway. Minimum age to be president is 35 and she’s 34.
She would turn 35 before inauguration, so she’d technically be eligible. Not speaking as to whether it would be a good idea or a bad one, but it’s possible.
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“We”? We can’t really do much about it. It’s the RNC and DNC that control that.
It would take the mass mobilization and coordination of a majority of Americans across party lines (big caveat there) to make a third party candidate viable. That’s an issue, especially when a significant part of the nation does indeed want fascist rule.
Edit: I’m not even sure it would be useful to primary better candidates as it’s the DNC and RNC who controls who is on their primaries. Even when the DNC allowed someone like Bernie Sanders on the ticket, they did everything they could to squash his campaign.
This is the problem. The RNC and the DNC are both private businesses looking to profit in one way or another. Neither give one fuck about the citizens. They only run candidates that are willing to serve the PARTY.
You’ve been hearing the argument, but can you give me a name?
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That’s because it won’t. Elections aren’t a panacea for society’s problems. Each election is a stepping stone, not the end goal. We get to decide if we take a step forward or fall backwards.
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Okay, so don’t let them. Work to ensure we take that step forward. Join a campaign. Canvas for a candidate. Get your friends signed up and pumped to vote. Look up any relevant laws regarding voting (early voting, mandated paid time off, etc.) and make sure people know about them.
But most importantly, vote. Vote often. Vote strategically. You may not always win by trying your hardest, but you will surely lose by doing nothing.
Well, with the backwards way the US is set up, they’re the only ones with a chance to win.