• TIMMAY@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    You guys have the most aggressive members here and I dont get it. I dont mean I dont get the hatred for cars, but you all act like we chose to have cars everywhere, and that the future doesnt have a place for cars. Maybe cars are bad (they are) but they have been around for over a century and there is a MASSIVR amount of infrastructure around cars. They arent going anywhere and at this point trying to eliminate them entirely would be absurd, all this infrastructure would be pointless and we just dont operate like that. Regardless, your clique here is hostile and irrational, im tired of your content being on my front page so I will be blocking it after this. Good luck.

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      11 months ago

      Many people literally die each year because of car-centric infrastructure, and you’re basically telling us to calm down? No fucking way.

      Before cars, there used to be a massive amount of infrastructure for trains and streetcars, not to mention walkable neighbourhood, but they all get demolished for cars. So yes, we do operate like that.

      And did I mention that car-centricity kills people each year? So yes, eliminate all cars if we have to. But honestly, I don’t think anyone wants to eliminate all cars, just those we don’t need (which is most of them).

    • hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net
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      11 months ago

      Cars are absolutely going somewhere. Cars won’t exist in 100 years (or will be so rare they will be basically negligible) because either we will have phased them out or they will have brought about the collapse of the complex society needed to support them.

      The problem is not just Internal combustion, but a myriad of issues with the most fundamental and intractable being that the fact that geometry hates cars. Car based society has been an experiment that’s only been going for less than 100 years, and it’s already failed. Even with essentially infinite cheap energy, cities like Detroit and Flint, early adopters of car-centric design, are showing us what the future looks like for any city that doesn’t radically change course.

      There will be massive suffering, reguarless of the course we take. People will lose massive amounts of wealth. Lots of people will die as the collapse of car infrastructure displaces massive numbers of people. The question is only if we aggressively mitigate the impact of the collapse of car culture, or keep pretending that cars aren’t going away and allow the humanitarian crisis to grow beyond the ability of society to absorb, manage, and recover from it.