Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley said late Sunday that, if elected to the White House, she would pardon former President Trump if he’s convicted of a federal crime. Asked the question …
My boss is a huge Trump supporter and was just saying to a customer that someone “delivered shit” to Nancy Pelosi’s house and smeared it on her front door.
These fucking people don’t want to be Americans anymore. It’s time we oblige them. Do you know how fast the South would be a third world country (half of it already is, see: Tennessee) without money coming in from the federal government and the “Marxist” States they love to hate on?
Southern states keep begging for it though. And I, for one, say let them have it. Then flatly refuse to let them rejoin.
There’s gonna be a lot of innocent people that can’t afford to leave getting caught up in that scheme. I don’t think we should collectively punish a massive population because of a vocal few.
Innocent person here. Not only would it be guaranteed to harm us, but IMO completely "other"ing even one entire state would be disastrous.
I’m no geopolitical expert, but I’ve heard the argument (and I tend to agree) that isolating an entire group of people and treating them all equally badly is a very effective way to allow terrorism to spread. Think about the decades-long “war on terror” and what little it actually accomplished.
Consider how many gun-toting military fetishists there are in, say, Texas. Then remember that “Y’all Qaeda” isn’t just a meme. These people are already mouth-foaming rabid when their conversation space is diluted with rational thought from more sensible people. Imagine sealing their echo chamber for them.
Obviously I don’t know what the best solution is, because compassion doesn’t work (except maybe on a one-to-one level, but who wants to talk to millions of nutjobs?), and antagonism will only bring us further down as a nation.
I’m not saying to treat anyone bad. I’m saying give them exactly what they’re begging for every day. Let them do it on their own. But once they get it, they’ve got it. Now they can figure it out on their own.
Oh definitely, I wasn’t trying to imply that. Just wanted to put in my two cents. As a Texan I want nothing more than to watch Abbott and Costello Cruz (and Paxton, among countless others) get their comeuppance, but that will inevitably hurt innocent people, whether through side effects or spiteful retaliation.
I’d probably be cheering on whatever pain the GOP feels, before realizing I should be biting my nails and planning my exit strategy lol.
It would be great if there was some federal assistance, as Dkarma mentioned. Helping good people while accelerating the brain drain 😄
Who cares? That’s half of why they want to secede anyway. They only care about violence and will only respond to violence.
At least then all the extra nutty nut jobs can migrate down before the cutoff (thered HAVE to be a transition period) and they won’t be our problem anymore.
Transgender person in the south here. I already can’t legally work in the career I have a degree for. An nb kid just got fucking murdered this week for being queer at school.
Unless there’s some kind of refugee program, people like me would just die. Texas is subpoenaing hospitals in Washington to try to make lists of trans people. Letting the South secede would be a fairly quick blood orgy.
Every once in a while she reminds me that there are no good republicans. I keep convincing myself that she’s but so bad, then she does something like this.
Same - There are so many times that I think, okay, maybe there is a hope for a moderate branch of the GOP. Here is someone who expresses nuance and common sense on a regular basis. But at a core level, once she comes down to any actual statement of policy, she ends up in exactly the same place as all the whackos. So does it really matter how reasonably and nuanced the road was to get to the terrible conclusion?
This lady is always finding ways to make me shake my head. She appears to be the same bullshit wrapped up in the “old” GOP shell.
My boss is a huge Trump supporter and was just saying to a customer that someone “delivered shit” to Nancy Pelosi’s house and smeared it on her front door.
These fucking people don’t want to be Americans anymore. It’s time we oblige them. Do you know how fast the South would be a third world country (half of it already is, see: Tennessee) without money coming in from the federal government and the “Marxist” States they love to hate on?
Southern states keep begging for it though. And I, for one, say let them have it. Then flatly refuse to let them rejoin.
There’s gonna be a lot of innocent people that can’t afford to leave getting caught up in that scheme. I don’t think we should collectively punish a massive population because of a vocal few.
Innocent person here. Not only would it be guaranteed to harm us, but IMO completely "other"ing even one entire state would be disastrous.
I’m no geopolitical expert, but I’ve heard the argument (and I tend to agree) that isolating an entire group of people and treating them all equally badly is a very effective way to allow terrorism to spread. Think about the decades-long “war on terror” and what little it actually accomplished.
Consider how many gun-toting military fetishists there are in, say, Texas. Then remember that “Y’all Qaeda” isn’t just a meme. These people are already mouth-foaming rabid when their conversation space is diluted with rational thought from
moresensible people. Imagine sealing their echo chamber for them.Obviously I don’t know what the best solution is, because compassion doesn’t work (except maybe on a one-to-one level, but who wants to talk to millions of nutjobs?), and antagonism will only bring us further down as a nation.
I’m not saying to treat anyone bad. I’m saying give them exactly what they’re begging for every day. Let them do it on their own. But once they get it, they’ve got it. Now they can figure it out on their own.
They want to talk shit, let 'em walk the walk.
Oh definitely, I wasn’t trying to imply that. Just wanted to put in my two cents. As a Texan I want nothing more than to watch Abbott and
CostelloCruz (and Paxton, among countless others) get their comeuppance, but that will inevitably hurt innocent people, whether through side effects or spiteful retaliation.I’d probably be cheering on whatever pain the GOP feels, before realizing I should be biting my nails and planning my exit strategy lol.
It would be great if there was some federal assistance, as Dkarma mentioned. Helping good people while accelerating the brain drain 😄
Who cares? That’s half of why they want to secede anyway. They only care about violence and will only respond to violence.
At least then all the extra nutty nut jobs can migrate down before the cutoff (thered HAVE to be a transition period) and they won’t be our problem anymore.
Or they can choose to be and finally get WRECKED
I propose a federal grant to get out whoever wants to leave free of charge.
It’s just a stupid idea, and I can only assume you all are talking nonsense for shits and giggles. If you’re remotely serious, you’re insane.
There’s no way out that doesn’t involve ripping off bandages.
Transgender person in the south here. I already can’t legally work in the career I have a degree for. An nb kid just got fucking murdered this week for being queer at school.
Unless there’s some kind of refugee program, people like me would just die. Texas is subpoenaing hospitals in Washington to try to make lists of trans people. Letting the South secede would be a fairly quick blood orgy.
Every once in a while she reminds me that there are no good republicans. I keep convincing myself that she’s but so bad, then she does something like this.
Same - There are so many times that I think, okay, maybe there is a hope for a moderate branch of the GOP. Here is someone who expresses nuance and common sense on a regular basis. But at a core level, once she comes down to any actual statement of policy, she ends up in exactly the same place as all the whackos. So does it really matter how reasonably and nuanced the road was to get to the terrible conclusion?